[council] Difficulties re Attending ICANN Annual meeting

[Mike Roberts <mmr@darwin.ptvy.ca.us>]

NC Members - We have a standard procedure of issuing invitation 
letters to anyone overseas who needs them as part of obtaining travel 
documents for the annual meeting.

Requests should be made to Diane Schroeder in our office in Marina 
del Rey. <schroeder@icann.org>

I note that the email from Kazakstan is dated today.  We will see 
what can be done to solve this problem.

If anyone is aware of any other ccTLD administrators with 
difficulties, please advise Diane immediately.

- Mike Roberts


Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 19:14:48 +0100 (MET)
From: Elisabeth Porteneuve <Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr>
To: council@dnso.org
Cc: icann-board@icann.org
Subject: [council] ccTLD Members CANNOT attend ICANN meetings in USA
Sender: owner-council@dnso.org
Status:


Dear NC Colleagues,

I am bringing to your attention the difficulties some of ccTLD Members
have to attend the ICANN meetings in Marina del Rey, USA.

The ICANN meetings in Marina del Rey, include a plenary session
dedicated to relationship between ICANN/IANA and ccTLD Administrators.

The achievement of stable agreements with the ccTLD organizations
is explicited in Amendment 2 to the Memorandum of Understanding
between ICANN and the United States Government, on the agenda now.

The ccTLD are world wide, covering all the countries and territories.

At this point I do not see how to proceed without making this difficulties
known to both ICANN and DNSO.

Regards,
Elisabeth Porteneuve

>  From owner-cctld-discuss@wwtld.org Fri Nov  3 18:29 MET 2000
>  Message-ID: <02f401c045b1$706885c0$6ad391c3@nic.kz>
>  From: "Pavel Gusev" <pg@newt.kz>
>  To: "John Crain" <crain@icann.org>
>  Cc: <cctlds.mail@wipo.int>, <cctld-discuss@wwtld.org>
>  Subject: [cctld-discuss] Re: Visa Gussev & Ostroukh
>  Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 22:16:36 +0600
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>      Dear John,
>
>  many thanks for your time and efforts. On the interview we asked all
>  questions the officer asks us. We have strong relations with Kazakstan
>  (family, work, children, etc.) and they has all the information from
>  our answers. The officer simply said "denied" and even don't let
>  me show other documents, which I was going to give her. She was wont
>  here me anymore and I had gone. After that my secretary sent the official
>  request to the embassy in Almaty. From the telefone conversation
>  I known that she don't believe that KazNIC organization with 6 people
>  of workers can control KZ domain name.
>      In the official reply to our request we've got that I doesn't show
>  strong relations with Kazakstan.
>      Our organization located in the Semipalatinsk city, 700 miles
>  far away from Almaty where is nearest American Embassy. It was
>  impossible for me to stay in Almaty for two more days just only
>  for another interview (interviews  monday, wednesday and friday only).
>  Elsewhere, we are supporting the domain name for the American
>  Embassy in Almaty - usis.kz and they perfectly knows that fact.
>
>      It seems impossible for KazNIC, a Kazakstani Organization and manager of
>  KZ
>  ccTLD  to participate in the upcoming ICANN meeting.
>
>  Thank you.
>
>  Best regards,
>  Pavel Gusev
>
>  KazNIC Organization
>  Momyshuly, 22
>  Semipalatinsk,
>  Kazakstan
>  tel.: +7 (322) 262-5800
>  fax: +7 (322) 266-8808
>  mobile: +7 (333) 211-3850
>
>
>  P.S. I am copying this email to cctld-dicuss list. For interested parties
>  the telephones
>  of American Embassy, Consular Section in Almaty, Kazastan are +7 327-2
>  63-2880, 63-2426, 50-7621.
>  The fax is +7 (3272) 50-6269.
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "John Crain" <crain@icann.org>
>  To: "Pavel Gussev" <pg@newt.kz>
>  Cc: <ajm@icann.org>
>  Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 4:42 PM
>  Subject: Re: Visa Gussev & Ostroukh
>
>
>  >
>  > Hello Pavel,
>  >
>  > I spoke to the embassy in Almaty this morning.
>  >
>  > The issue is that you need to prove connection and ties to your
>  > own country. This is called section 214B, some legal term:(
>  >
>  > There was nothing that we can do from this end, this according to the
>  > embassy staff.
>  >
>  > Having dealt with emabassies before the things I can think of that may be
>  > useful, talk to the embassy staff to find out exactly what they need,
>  > would be permanent work contracts with your employer, residency contracts
>  > etc..
>  >
>  >
>  > I can send them a letter requesting that they grant you a visa but it will
>  > not help as the only issue is the 214b, proof of intent toreturn to your
>  > country. If they/you can think of something which we can do from this end
>  > then I will do my best to help.
>  >
>  > Yours
>  >
>  > John Crain
>  > ICANN
>  >
>  > On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Pavel Gussev wrote:
>  >
>  > > Dear John,
>  > >
>  > >   Thank you for the invitation to the upcomming ICANN meeting.
>  > >   We have a problem with getting visa to US.
>  > >   Please call an American embassy in Almaty
>  > >   tel +7 327-2 63-2880, 63-2426, 50-7621
>  > >
>  > >   Thank you a lot for Your assistation.
>  > >
>  > > Best regards,
>  > > Pavel Gussev
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
>  >
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