[council] RE: [ga-abuse] Request for Footer on GA-ABUSE Mailing List

[R.Gaetano@iaea.org]

Dear all co-hostages of this saga,

For the record, there has been no discussion whatsoever on ga-abuse so far
on whether there should be a footer or not.
Patrick is the only one so far to have made this request, and I would
consider unwise to make the change at this point in time, just to find out
that the other people are against.

For the request to add a cross-posting filter [ga-abuse] / [ga], from my
past experience as GA Chair I would not recommend such implementation, as I
explained in a prior post, until the Chair has not taken a position or the
subject has been debated on the list.

I agree with Patrick that the DNSO Secretariat should provide services to
the GA, and not only to NC, but I strongly disagree on a situation in which
the DNSO Secreatariat takes order from the alt-Chair, in particular in
absence of a position expressed by the Chair and/or in a situation where it
is not unlikely that the action taken has to be undone due to cryout of the
GA shortly after.

Why should DNSO Secretariat be forced to perform an action that will appear
as unilateral, and that will be regretted later?
IMHO DNSO Secretariat:
- *should not* take action on the [ga-abuse] footer unless consensus is
established on [ga-abuse] or at least directive from the Chair in the public
list (I mean [ga]);
- *should not* take action on cross-posting filter [ga-abuse] / [ga] unless
consensus is established on [ga] or at least directive from the Chair is
posted to [ga].

Regards
Roberto


> -----Original Message-----
> From: DNSO Secretariat [mailto:DNSO.Secretariat@dnso.org]
> Sent: Friday, 06 July 2001 16:17
> To: DNSO.Secretariat@dnso.org; patrick@quad.net.au
> Cc: council@dnso.org; ga-abuse@dnso.org; lynn@icann.org
> Subject: Re: [ga-abuse] Request for Footer on GA-ABUSE Mailing List
> 
> 
> 
> 
> All,
> 
> My text is not quoted completely, and the people added in reply
> CC may miss the substance.
> I am very sorry to add to your e-mail work.
> 
> -----------
> ==> I add another subject for all List Monitors and consideration:
>     about non cross-posting of ga-abuse with others lists.
> 
>     I would not like to see the slitest accusation of Secretariat
>     about filtering and censorship.
> 
>     The purpose of ga-abuse is to complain. Such complain MUST
>     be allowed to any member of the DNSO (it is - the posting to
>     ga-abuse is allowed to any subscriber to any DNSO list).
>     Usually complains arrive only to ga-abuse - as Harald mention, 
>     there was almost no cross-posting during last 3 months
>     (forward from a list is not cross-posting in the technical
>     meaning).
> 
>     Now, if the Lists Monitors consider that the ga-abuse should
>     be non cross-posted (technical meaning of non cross-posting)
>     with other GA lists, I would be grateful you decide it formaly 
>     and announce this formal decision to the DNSO.
>     Then the Secretariat will set up filters.
> 
>     Regards,
>     Elisabeth Porteneuve
> -----------
> 
> Elisabeth Porteneuve
> 
> 
> | From patrick@quad.net.au Fri Jul  6 13:50 MET 2001
> | From: "Patrick Corliss" <patrick@quad.net.au>
> | To: "DNSO Secretariat" <DNSO.Secretariat@dnso.org>
> | Cc: "M. Stuart Lynn, ICANN" <lynn@icann.org>, "[ga-abuse]" 
> <ga-abuse@dnso.org>,
> |         "Names Council" <council@dnso.org>
> | Subject: [ga-abuse] Request for Footer on GA-ABUSE Mailing List
> | Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 21:56:03 +1000
> 
> <snip>
> 
> | 
> | 
> | > ==> I add another subject for all List Monitors and consideration:
> | >     about non cross-posting of ga-abuse with others lists.
> | 
> | I'll deal with each issue separately if I may.  I will 
> note, for the record,
> | that you remain opposed to that request also.
> | 
> | My simple request to add some form of list footer was 
> deliberately chosen to
> | gauge the extent of your co-operation.  If you like, it was a test.
> | Personally I find it most onerous to have such protracted 
> debates over such
> | simple requests.
> | 
> | For the record, can you advise whether or not you will add a footer?
> | 
> | Best regards
> | Patrick Corliss
> | 
> | 
> | 
>