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RE: [council] A question regarding the NC Vote
Thank you Marilyn.
The ccTLD feels that their concerns are complex and different enough
to have a dedicated SO, and more channels of communication with ICANN.
Many large ccTLD represent their Local Internet Communities,
which in several cases are national ICANN/DNSO-like bodies.
Contrary to current gTLD, the ccTLD does not operate under
US jurisdiction, but under their national one. They are international.
Therefore all the scheme of relations of ICANN, which was devised
to serve the gTLD (White Paper describes it quite well) does not
apply mutatis mutandis to the ccTLD, and request for reconsideration.
But to built up the ccSO the ccTLD group intends to proceed withing ICANN
Bylaws, respecting and considering all partners: ICANN Board and staff,
the Names Council, all Constituencies, the DNSO, the ALSC.
The process of constructing a new ccSO will take some time.
Elisabeth Porteneuve
ccTLD NC rep
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> From owner-council@dnso.org Sat Aug 11 01:51 MET 2001
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> From: "Cade,Marilyn S - LGA" <mcade@att.com>
> To: "'DannyYounger@cs.com'" <DannyYounger@cs.com>, council@dnso.org
> Cc: philip.sheppard@aim.be
> Subject: RE: [council] A question regarding the NC Vote
> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 19:49:55 -0400
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> I'll let the ccTLD representatives speak for themselves, and their
> constituency.
>
> But, Danny, I am not sure that is that clear cut, and it may be that they
> will agree to remain in the NC until the creation of an SO. That would be my
> hope, and should be the goal of all of us who have benefited from the input,
> participation, and leadership of the ccTLD members on the NC, and the
> leadership of the ccTLDS themselves throughout the process of building
> ICANN.
>
> It wouldn't be a good idea to close our relationships off from this critical
> group who are supporting how individuals and businesses -- indeed most users
> in most countries, use and come onto the Internet.
>
> Our own experience is that after all, all "brands" are local... customers,
> whether they are businesses, consumers, governmental agencies, pr non
> profits -- like the local brand/national brand--translate: ccTLD. Many
> companies make an extra effort to ensure that they can have a ccTLD
> registration, even if they have a global TLD registration. One might choose
> to register in primarily those countries where one is doing business -- but
> my point is that the ccTLDs are an essential part of who supports
> customers.... and from my perspective, I hope they will stay in the NC until
> they build and launch their SO.
>
> We must remember that they too, as well as the other constituencies and the
> GA, will be affected by board decisions, so voting for the NC board member
> is hopefully, of strong interest to them.
>
> But that's my personal view... and thoughts.
>
> I just don't think anyone should be challenging about their decisions. I am
> sure they will keep the NC informed of their constituency's decisions.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Marilyn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DannyYounger@cs.com [mailto:DannyYounger@cs.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 7:14 PM
> To: council@dnso.org
> Cc: philip.sheppard@aim.be
> Subject: [council] A question regarding the NC Vote
>
>
> Dear Philip,
>
> Allow me to raise a point of order...
>
> The ccTLD Constituency has already formally voted to withdraw from the DNSO.
>
> They have also declared that "On that basis members will not contribute to
> expenses for DNSO activities after 30 June 2001."
>
> This being the case, how can we allow Oscar Alejandro Robles Garay,
> Elisabeth
> Porteneuve and Peter de Blanc to participate in the vote to select the next
> Director to represent the DNSO?
>
> Best regards,
> Danny Younger
>
>
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> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=177534023-10082001>I'll
> let the ccTLD representatives speak for themselves, and their
> constituency. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
> class=177534023-10082001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=177534023-10082001>But,
> Danny, I am not sure that is that clear cut, and it may be that they will agree
> to remain in the NC until the creation of an SO. That would be my hope, and
> should be the goal of all of us who have benefited from the input,
> participation, and leadership of the ccTLD members on the NC, and the leadership
> of the ccTLDS themselves throughout the process of building ICANN.
> </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
> class=177534023-10082001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=177534023-10082001>It
> wouldn't be a good idea to close our relationships off from this critical group
> who are supporting how individuals and businesses -- indeed most users in most
> countries, use and come onto the Internet. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
> class=177534023-10082001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=177534023-10082001>Our
> own experience is that after all, all "brands" are local... customers, whether
> they are businesses, consumers, governmental agencies, pr non profits -- like
> the local brand/national brand--translate: ccTLD. Many companies make an
> extra effort to ensure that they can have a ccTLD registration, even if they
> have a global TLD registration. One might choose to register in primarily those
> countries where one is doing business -- but my point is that the ccTLDs are an
> essential part of who supports customers.... and from my perspective, I hope
> they will stay in the NC until they build and launch their
> SO.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
> class=177534023-10082001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=177534023-10082001>We
> must remember that they too, as well as the other constituencies and the GA,
> will be affected by board decisions, so voting for the NC board member is
> hopefully, of strong interest to them.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
> class=177534023-10082001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=177534023-10082001>But
> that's my personal view... and thoughts.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
> class=177534023-10082001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=177534023-10082001>I just
> don't think anyone should be challenging about their decisions. I am sure
> they will keep the NC informed of their constituency's
> decisions.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
> class=177534023-10082001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=177534023-10082001>Best
> regards, </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
> class=177534023-10082001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
> class=177534023-10082001>Marilyn</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
> size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> DannyYounger@cs.com
> [mailto:DannyYounger@cs.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 10, 2001 7:14
> PM<BR><B>To:</B> council@dnso.org<BR><B>Cc:</B>
> philip.sheppard@aim.be<BR><B>Subject:</B> [council] A question regarding the
> NC Vote<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=3>Dear
> Philip, <BR><BR>Allow me to raise a point of order... <BR><BR>The ccTLD
> Constituency has already formally voted to withdraw from the DNSO.
> <BR>They have also declared that "On that basis members will not contribute to
> <BR>expenses for DNSO activities after 30 June 2001." <BR><BR>This being the
> case, how can we allow Oscar Alejandro Robles Garay, Elisabeth <BR>Porteneuve
> and Peter de Blanc to participate in the vote to select the next <BR>Director
> to represent the DNSO? <BR><BR>Best regards, <BR>Danny Younger
> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#000000 size=2
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