RE: [council] Task Forces and diversity

["Chicoine, Caroline G." <CCHICOINE@thompsoncoburn.com>]

"I provided 4 candidates lawyers from ccTLD group, from 3 continents,"
TRUE, and we thank you profusely since without your nominees we would not
have had Africa represented.

"nobody else provided such geographic diversity"
TRUE through no fault of the Chairs.

"and the Chairs had choice." FALSE.  If a Constituency gave us only one name
that a NA, we had no choice. Where we had more than one nominee in a
category and a non-NA existed, provided they had the proper skills expertise
we were looking for, we nominated them.  In all cases where we actually had
to make a selection, we conciously chose a non-NA.

The Chairs drafted a terms of reference which you all accepted.  The NC
adopted some procedural rules regarding setting up committees and Task Force
which you all accepted.  As written, it is very clear from the Terms of
Reference and our rules that geographic diversity would not necessarily be
guaranteed.  However, some people who believe it should be required failed
to see that.  

Nevertheless, I think Elisabeth's point is a good one, and we can all
consider whether our rules should be changed.  HOWEVER, we are already
behind schedule on the UDRP Review and I would like to be able to begin
discussions with the Task Force.  

On a more important note, however, the criticism received seems to infer
that non-NA views will not be heard.  There is absolutely NOTHING that
prevents non-NAs from providing their input to the respective Task Force
member. Moreover, everyone will be able to respond to the questionnaire.  A
good example of this working is in the case of .org.  The IP Constituency
has Guillermo as our representative.  He keeps us all in the loop when there
are things to be commented on.  When he speaks, they are not his personal
views but those of the Constituency.  There would be no difference in those
views if I, a NA were in his place.

In any event, can we please make a decision on this so that the Task Force
can actually begin its work.

-----Original Message-----
From: Elisabeth Porteneuve [mailto:Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr]
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 6:16 PM
To: council@dnso.org; philip.sheppard@aim.be
Subject: Re: [council] Task Forces and diversity




Philip,

I respectifuly disagree with the last statement:
> to set up this TF. I believe that the Chair worked hard to embrace
> geographical diversity but was of course subject to the limitation of
> the nominees received. In this case I believe diversity has been created
> in other ways - by the expertise on the issues.

I provided 4 candidates lawyers from ccTLD group, from 3 continents,
-- nobody else provided such geographic diversity, and the Chairs
had choice. The expertise in UDRP and Internet is related to the diversity
of various countries.

I maintain my objection to the composition of UDRP TF - this group
is not international.

Therefore I move a motion to the amendment we voted:
   http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/20010706.NCprocedures-amendment.html

To be added to 3.3:

   h) the geographic diversity of TF must be granted, no one
      geographic region may be represented by more than one third
      of members in any TF

To be added to 3.5:

   The variations does not apply to the geographic diversity.

Elisabeth Porteneuve
ccTLD NC rep
--


> From owner-council@dnso.org Thu Aug 30 14:31 MET 2001
> Message-ID: <008501c13125$775fc2c0$6501a8c0@aim.be>
> From: "Philip Sheppard" <philip.sheppard@aim.be>
> To: "NC \(list\)" <council@dnso.org>
> Subject: [council] Task Forces and diversity
> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:29:12 +0200
> 
> YJ,
> 
> with regard to your proposal to discuss geographical diversity of task =
> forces. This should NOT be necessary. The NC has already voted on the =
> GENERAL point and you will see in our rules of procedure:
> 
> 3.1 Types From time to time the NC may form sub-groups. These are =
> typically of three types. Each type may form and be responsible for =
> further sub-groups from within their membership. The composition of =
> these groups shall follow the spirit of the ICANN Bylaws with regard to =
> geographical diversity=20
> 
> With regard to the UDRP task force, this is a special task force as =
> foreseen under 3.5 of our rules of procedure:
> 
> 3.5 Variations Specific variations to the above guidelines may exist =
> within the DNSO rules of procedures, such specific variations taking =
> precedence. Any other variation requires the approval of the NC.=20
> 
> You will recall the NC voted to approve the terms of reference proposed =
> to set up this TF. I believe that the Chair worked hard to embrace =
> geographical diversity but was of course subject to the limitation of =
> the nominees received. In this case I believe diversity has been created =
> in other ways - by the expertise on the issues.=20
> 
> Philip
> 
> NC Chair
> 
>