[ga-full] Re: Prof. Froomkin's exchange with Andrew McLaughlin

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Karl and all,

  As I indicated in an earlier post on this thread regarding this matter,
William Walsh is of course simply ill prepared and also terribly
under qualified to make a reasonable judgment on such matters
from a practical standpoint.  Therefore I would, and can only
conclude that he is doing a bit of political grandstanding.  It
is a obviously poor attempt a spin as you accurately noted and
followed up nicely Karl.

Karl Auerbach wrote:

> > I also disagree with Prof. Froomkin on many of his points.  I have serious
> > concerns over his lack of understanding of many of the technical issues, and
> > I'm while I agree with him on many things, I do not believe he is entirely
> > correct in his post.
>
> Could you be more specific?  I read Michael Froomkin's comments and to my
> mind they were precisely on point and well supported by the evidence.
>
> Below are some comments that I sent on that matter in another forum....
>
>                 --karl--
>
> >From karl@cavebear.com Sun Feb 6 01:11:03 2000
> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 14:46:25 -0800 (PST)
> From: Karl Auerbach <karl@cavebear.com>
> Subject: [Was RE: [ga] Final draft of proposed mailing list rules]
>
> I strongly endorse Michael Froomkin's comments, they ring of truth and
> accuracy.
>
> I'd like to add some emphasis:
>
> > > I certainly recognize that ICANN's comment interfaces have left something to
> > > be desired.  We're shortly going to be launching some improved web-based
> > > forums in which interested persons can submit comments and discuss pending
> > > issues (the ad hoc group on numbering will use one of these).
>
> I might add that the IAB/IETF, the 3 RIRs (ARIN, RIPE, APNIC), and
> Cisco Systems all sent *strong* objections to that "ad hoc group".
>
> And to date not a single one of their concerns has been acknowledged, much
> less addressed.  Yet that "ad hoc group" is apparently proceeding, in
> utter secrecy.
>
> Moreover, the subject matter of that group, addressing, is a matter for
> the ASO, *not* for the ICANN board nor for any "ad hoc group".  This fact
> is clearly stated in the ICANN bylaws.
>
> It doesn't take a very keen eye to observe that ICANN is run by its
> executive officers - the somnolent board is bypassed or used as a rubber
> stamp, and in its few waking moments the board itself bypasses its
> obligation to refer and defer to the Supporting Organizations, and those
> SO's contain anti-democratic/anti-consumer controlling elements that
> themselves chose to ignore and render useless their public "assemblies".
>
> ICANN is about as "bottom up" as the Catholic church in 1517.
>
> I would add that to date ICANN has not engaged in even a single item that
> one can reasonably characterize as "technical coordination" of the
> Internet.  Rather, it has *all* been policy.  My simple test:
>
>   A matter is "technical coordination" of the Internet if:
>
>     A wrong decision has an immediate and direct impact on the
>     ability of the Internet to deliver its fundamental service, i.e.
>     the end-to-end transport of IP packets.
>
>     Otherwise it is a policy matter.
>
> As for the IDNO - it was poisoned by ICANN's unprincipled refusal to even
> answer its petition for constituency status.  After it became overtly
> clear that ICANN's was never going to allow the IDNO to be given fair and
> open consideration, the IDNO had no vitality, and like the useless
> appendage we call the GA of the DNSO is doing, it withered.
>
> The IDNO *is* attempting to come back.
>
> And I might add that to date ICANN has still never had a public meeting
> that can meet any standard of "open" of "transparent" higher than "bad
> theatre".
>
>                 --karl--
>
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Regards,

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