[ga-full] Re: [ga] DNSO.ORG has melted down?

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Roeland and all,


 I don't know if I can say that the DNSO has "Melted Down" but it is
in a perpetual "Spin Mode" mostly lead by the NC, the DNSO List admin.
and the illegitimate "Chair and Co-Chair".  Starting in August I amongst
a few others saw this coming and tried to head it off.  That was not
successful.  In fact due to the actions, and lack there of, of the NC
and most especially the DNSO Admin. the DNSO has purposefully
put itself in a "Trust Rift" that it will find itself VERY difficult to
crawl out of or repair without allot of pain to the NC, the DNSO
List Admin. and most especially the "Chair and Co-Chair".


Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:

> This week has been most interesting. First the cracker-kiddies start capping
> some of the largest pipes on the Internet (which scares the bejeezus out of
> me), then I see a bunch of folks, that I have mucho respect for, leave this
> [DNSO-GA] forum.
>
> I have been watching this for some time. I too have been concerned with the
> noise level. Currently, I peg the value-add content somewhere south of 1% of
> list traffic. I can mostly lay this at the feet of one Joe Baptista.
> Congratulations Joe, you've done PCCF proud.
>
> However, I can make a case for comparative negligence with the operators of
> DNSO.ORG, as well. In that case, Joe has made a strong point; A trust
> relationship can not exist when with this many unfiltered and unverified
> persons. Especially, when one of them has the malicious intent/capability
> that Joe has demonstrated. In this environment, informal and  ad hoc
> practices of the past will, demonstrably, not work. This can be laid at the
> feet of the DNSO Names Council (whom adopted Roberts Rules, yet still could
> not even spell them in the San Jose NC meeting [buying the book is
> insufficient, one must also read it]).
>
> Formal rules and process may be a burden, but participating in this sort of
> activity, without them, may be a complete waste of time. I mentioned
> something like this when I addressed the Names Council, in San Jose.
> However, structure does NOT appear out of nowhere, it must be created. The
> manner of creation is ALWAYS contentious. The failure to realize this, and
> act accordingly, is the prime failure of the DNSO and the ICANN as well.
>
> DNSO.ORG, and the ICANN, by association, is failing this political
> competency litmus test.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org]On Behalf Of Patrick
> > Greenwell
> > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 8:43 AM
> > To: William X. Walsh
> > Cc: Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law; ga@dnso.org; Kent Crispin
> > Subject: Re: [ga] Message from the Chair - List Rules
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, William X. Walsh wrote:
> >
> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >
> > >
> > > The only one annoyed, is you.
> >
> > Not really, I'm with Michael.

Regards,
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