[ga-full] Re: Identity claims (Re: [ga] Another Resignation)

["!Dr. Joe Baptista" <baptista@pccf.net>]

I remember a few months ago speaking on a conference call with jeff and
james.

On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:

> At 17:33 13.02.00 -0800, James Touton wrote:
> >Jeff, Ellen and all assembly members Remaining,
> >
> >   I must also agree with Jeff's keen observation as well as Michaels,
> >Ellens, Erics, and Karls.  It seems a bit disingenuous that Roberto
> >could legitimately speak as "Chair" as he was not legitimately elected
> >elected as such.  This is clear in the archives for all to see for
> >themselves.
> >
> >   I would add that I don't see any movement coming from Roberto
> >or Harald in correcting this inconsistency in any manner and register
> >my complaint as well here in this regard.
> 
> Since we see no illegitimacy, there is no inconsistency, and no need to 
> correct anything.
> 
> >   Further as of friday Harald has sent me, Bob Davis and our spokesman,
> >Jeff williams an complaint sent by one William Walsh claiming that I, nor
> >Bob Davis are real people.  At first I found this to be quite hilarious,
> >but in several exchanges with Harald, Including Jeff, and Bob, I have sense
> >seen it as a clear indication that Harald is acting in a seemingly vindictive
> >and passionate manner.  I also find this to be offensive.  More on this
> >later.
> 
> I have in fact made such a query.
> The "proofs" offered for Bob Davis and James Touton so far are:
> 
> - A "persona not verified" cert for James Touton
> - A self-signed PGP key for Bob Davis
> - An offer to speak with INEGroup at the phone number attached to all Jeff
>    Williams' posts
> - Pointers to AnyWho, where there was no information, and to NetZero, which
>    does not reveal subscriber information
> - Claims that contracts with their members prohibit them from revealing
>    the necessary information about themselves
> - Various and sundry vague pointers to where information might have been
>    available if one were to know what to ask for (such as the FEC, whichever
>    of the various agencies using that abbreviation that might be).
> 
> Very useful exercise.
> 
> If anyone on the list (apart from Jeff Williams, Bob Davis and James 
> Touton, with whom I've already communicated) wishes to come forward with 
> more evidence for the existence of these two persons as distinct from Jeff 
> Williams, please send your messages to ga-abuse@dnso.org.
> (I don't think we need more evidence against their existence)
> 
>                    Harald T. Alvestrand
> 
> 
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