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[ga-full] Re: alternate gTLD namespace - was Re: XXX domains

To: "!Dr. Joe Baptista" <baptista@pccf.net>
Subject: [ga-full] Re: alternate gTLD namespace - was Re: XXX domains
From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 23:25:22 -0800
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Joe and all,

  Ohh yes, agreed Joe.  And yes very helpful.



!Dr. Joe Baptista wrote:

> Well - I don't know if you remember Jeff - I once gave you my impression
> of what domain space is all about.  I'm of the opinion that we should just
> serialize the dictionary and use URL's as we would use natural
> language.  I think alot of user would find that sort of thing helpful.
>
> Regards
> Joe Baptista
>
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> > Joe and all,
> >
> >   Feel free to distribute this post at your discretion....
> >
> >   I was thinking about another for the "Tech Heads", like .clue or dot.clue.
> > I have been thinking this would be good for William Walsh's Tool/Toy
> > for instance something like walshhasnt.clue or WXWno.clue for instance.
> > Of course there are other permiations that would be very fitting as well...
> >
> > !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote:
> >
> > > Oh - I would never operate a wholesome family values service name
> > > space.  It's too much overhead.  I'm going to have fun with the tld's I
> > > have .god, .satan, .doctor and .cum for the perverts.  .god and .satan are
> > > excellent tld's - at least 2000 years of world wide hard marketing.  Long
> > > before the internet began perverting the masses with infospace overdoses -
> > > the roman catholic church was marketing God and Satan.
> > >
> > > The key to winning over the internet will to a degree be based on offering
> > > choice.  That's why I strongly support the christians in their efforts to
> > > achive family values.  And I understand and frankly sympathize with their
> > > views.
> > >
> > > The adult superstore.ca - conducted a survey a few years back into
> > > christian values.  And they found that a majority of christian folk use
> > > channel blockers - to keep the family viewing wholesome.  And I'm a big
> > > supporter of that.  Television is evil for christian children.  A normal
> > > big city child of 10 these days is at it all the time - and i'm talking
> > > sex here.  And where do you expect they picked it up from - the TV of
> > > course and negligent parenting.  The christians understand this and i
> > > support their efforts to block the filth on TV.
> > >
> > > But what of the internet.  I believe the internet has killed every last
> > > vestige of childhood we held precious.  I think it is inevirtable that
> > > soon children will have full right equal to adults - and as such a
> > > comparible responsibility in law.  I also know children are producing
> > > child porn on the internet.  It's a very sad state of affairs.  These
> > > things terrify chiristian and other people and justly so, the innocense of
> > > childhood has been raped and is being raped ever day.  ICANN can solve the
> > > issue by welcoming family value gtld's.  This will give the christians the
> > > opportunity to control their own namespace and keep it wholesome and safe
> > > for them and their children.  And if ICANN does not - I hope the cristian
> > > community will do it on their own initiative.  Not only is it a good
> > > project - it's right up there with salvation.
> > >
> > > Amen
> > > Joe Baptista
> > >
> > > On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Jeff Williams wrote:
> > >
> > > > Joe and all,
> > > >
> > > >   Well when you get  .wholesome or .holesome up I want IAM.wholesome
> > > > or sheis.holesome.  >;)  Let me know, I will send you a check!  >;)
> > > >
> > > > !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Also don't forget the christians.  The dns can be used to control access
> > > > > and there's a high demand for controlled access to safe site - what better
> > > > > way then a .wholesome tld.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Joe Baptista
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Sebastien Lahtinen (InterNIC List Account) wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Nice in principle... Firstly.. these xxx companies want to target the
> > > > > > adults who will pay for it.. i.e. they should WANT an xxx domain. to
> > > > > > remove the bandwidth-wasting kids.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Secondly.. freedom of speech is a very fine line.. should you have to go
> > > > > > for .xxx? What is the line? who judges?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thirdly... so all I have to do to revoke a dot-com is hack a site, change
> > > > > > the page?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sebastien
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Dean Robb wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > At 15:23 2/7/00 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > > > > >http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-full/Arc00/msg00090.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >so who at ICANN is going to monitor domains for XXX content?  What happens
> > > > > > > >when content changes?  What happens when companies want to avoid blocking
> > > > > > > >software and register domain in the "entertainment" TLD?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How about the simple "user complaint" system?  The same system I tried for
> > > > > > > years to convince NSI to use for false registration information.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If I visit childsplay.ent (pulling a TLD from my nether parts) and find it
> > > > > > > full of porn, I drop an email to ICANN/Whoever.  The supervising entity
> > > > > > > then verifies my complaint and if valid, kills the registration (with no
> > > > > > > refund, of course!).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Simple, effective and minimal overhead.  Provids workable policing of TLD
> > > > > > > restrictions AND empowers the users.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Remember when a Pokemon was a guy who walked slowly?"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dean Robb
> > > > > > > Owner, PC-EASY
> > > > > > > (757) 495-EASY [3279]
> > > > > > > On-site computer services
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > > > Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!)
> > > > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > > > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> > > > E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> > > > Contact Number:  972-447-1894
> > > > Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!)
> > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> > E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> > Contact Number:  972-447-1894
> > Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
> >
> >

Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number:  972-447-1894
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208


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