[ga-full] Re: [ga] Matters to discuss ... Am I a member?

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Kent and all,

  I agree with Kent to the extent that auditors are needed to effect
fair and uninhibited elections via E-Mail or the Web.  This much is
quite obvious given the past two fraudulent elections held here, and
the very fraudulent "Poll" for list rules.

  It is important to also insure that these "Auditors" are in no way
connected with ICANN or the DNSO.  So they should be independent
auditors that have experience in this type of auditing.

  However the rest of Kents comments would fall under violation of
privacy and a violation of the privacy act as well.

Kent Crispin wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 08:25:19AM +0100, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
> > At 15:12 23.02.00 +1300, Joop Teernstra wrote:
> > >At 17:47 22/02/00 -0800, Kent Crispin wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >It is not necessary to publish the names for any purpose related to
> > > >voting.
> > > >
> > >
> > >It is. People need to see if they are not omitted from the roll.
> >
> > This purpose can be served by sending out individual email ballots; if you
> > didn't get yours, you're not on the roll (or you have to contact the admins
> > to correct your email address).
> >
> > The other purpose (to assure people that the rolls are fairly kept, with no
> > "strange" additions) cannot, I think, be met without publication.
>
> Actually, there are other ways to do that, as well -- all that is really
> required are auditors.  If you have a set of mutually suspicious
> auditors the level of trust required for any given auditor can be quite
> low.  (In fact, one can almost think of a public list as a just a
> limiting case, where the set of auditors is equal to the set of
> voters.)  [The votebot supports an arbitrary set of auditors.]
>
> I may be conveying the wrong impression, though -- I *prefer* open
> publication as the simplest way of accomplishing integrity in elections
> -- other methods quickly become complex and/or insecure.
>
> More: I believe that publication at some point and in some form is a
> necessary component of fair (email) elections.  One can imagine, for
> example, a voting system where a list of randomly generated voter ID's
> is published, each voter knows their own ID, and the auditors are the
> only ones who can see the full association between the IDs and the
> actual voters...
>
> kent
>
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> Kent Crispin                               "Do good, and you'll be
> kent@songbird.com                           lonesome." -- Mark Twain
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Regards,

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