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[ga-full] Re: [ga] Proposal: WWW / slashdot

To: Michael <mcnulty@AZStarnet.com>
Subject: [ga-full] Re: [ga] Proposal: WWW / slashdot
From: "!Dr. Joe Baptista" <baptista@pccf.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:37:42 -0500 (EST)
cc: ga@dnso.org
In-Reply-To: <38BBC74C.C5C02639@AZStarnet.com>
Sender: owner-ga-full@dnso.org

So Michael - you managed to drag your carcus back to the GA.  But still
nothing of value is happening.  And all the intellectuals have fled.

Regards
Joe

On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Michael wrote:

> 'Privacy policies' are not required under U.S. law.
> Michael McNulty
> 
> 
> 
> Jeff Williams wrote:
> 
> > Jean-Michel and all,
> >
> >   The problem Jean-Michel here are many and varied when it comes to
> > the perpetration's that Harald, Roberto, the DNSO NC, and the DNSO
> > list admin. have done that is a matter of historical record (See DNSO GA
> > Archives for further in-depth details).  But this is only really part of
> > the problem to which you refer.  Privacy issues are very real and quite
> > concerning in general as well as in specific.  One of them is "Identity Teft"
> > which the FTC  see: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2000/02/idtheft.htm
> > for further details.  Other concerns as related to "Identity Theft" with
> > respect to the DNSO is the total lack of proper security on the DNSO.org
> > Web site as well as this mailing list.  It is an easy hack, as has been
> > demonstrated on several occasions.  Another, concern is the total lack
> > of a viable and lawful "Privacy Policy" as required by US law.  In that
> > the DNSO is part of ICANN and ICANN is a US non-profit corporation
> > without an official and approved or well recognized Privacy Policy, the
> > problem of "Identity Theft" becomes that much more acute.
> >
> > Jean-Michel Becar wrote:
> >
> > > Mr Baptista,
> > >
> > > As I'm a honest citizen I don't care to provide or to share any of my
> > > private information with any body. Why are you so reluctant? I always
> > > thought that only people having something to hide would hide their identity.
> > > But I do not think it's your case, so what's the problem?
> > >
> > > Jean-Michel Becar
> > > ETSI Project Manager
> > > www.etsi.org
> > > Tel: +33 4 92 94 43 15
> > > Fax: +33 4 92 38 52 15
> > > GSM: +33 6 82 80 19 31
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: !Dr. Joe Baptista [mailto:baptista@pccf.net]
> > > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 11:22 AM
> > > To: Jean-Michel Becar
> > > Cc: 'Harald Tveit Alvestrand'; ga@dnso.org; list@ifwp.org
> > > Subject: RE: [ga] Proposal: WWW / slashdot
> > >
> > > not in the icann cards - nor do I expect icann for reasons of privacy to
> > > share any information with the ga nitwits.
> > >
> > > On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, Jean-Michel Becar wrote:
> > >
> > > > Harald,
> > > >
> > > > Yes of course, I wrote this Email earlier in the morning and I only though
> > > > afterwards I was writing something not enough open for our process. BTW I
> > > > like your idea to use the At Large membership system to subscribe to the
> > > ga.
> > > > Dear ga members could we go for a discussion on that.
> > > >
> > > > Jean-Michel Becar
> > > > E.T.S.I.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand [mailto:Harald@Alvestrand.no]
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 8:26 AM
> > > > To: Jean-Michel Becar; Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law;
> > > > ga@dnso.org
> > > > Subject: RE: [ga] Proposal: WWW / slashdot
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 05:44 28.02.00 +0000, Jean-Michel Becar wrote:
> > > > >Harald, Michael,
> > > > >
> > > > >But the way the At Large members is registered via this Web Interface
> > > could
> > > > >be an example for the GA membership.
> > > > >But the way the proof of identity is done (by sending a postal mail to
> > > the
> > > > >pysical address with a PIN code to be used for accessing to the web site)
> > > > >would cost too much for the GA.
> > > > >So why not to set up a web site where people can registrer themselves and
> > > > >for the proof of identity and interest in the GA DNSO, they should
> > > provide
> > > > a
> > > > >domain name that can be verified with a whois request if the domain name
> > > > >holder is the same as the member.
> > > >
> > > > and if they don't hold any domain names?
> > > > For those that do, it's possible - but we'll have to do something for the
> > > > rest. (And, of course, domain names can cost down to USD 10 these days)
> > > >
> > > > another idea I had - what if we considered an activated At Large
> > > membership
> > > > necessary and sufficient for voting rights in the GA?
> > > > This would have a couple of advantages:
> > > >
> > > > - ICANN has to do the verification work anyway, so it's only done once
> > > > - More active use of the ICANN membership code gives more chance that
> > > > weaknesses in the system will be found and corrected
> > > > - It's a drive (a small one) for At Large membership
> > > >
> > > > Of course, this leaves us without the power to impose or enforce our own
> > > > membership rules, requires people to be willing to sign up for At Large
> > > > membership, and requires that the people running the At Large are willing
> > > > to share at least some information.
> > > >
> > > > But it's an idea.
> > > >
> > > >                        Harald
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Harald Tveit Alvestrand, EDB Maxware, Norway
> > > > Harald.Alvestrand@edb.maxware.no
> > > >
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