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Here is my exchange with Rob Richie of the Center for Voting and
Democracy regarding IRV and whether it is a fully developed system
which may be adopted by reference (thus avoiding any need to develop
a complete new ruleset if we wanted to use it).

-------- Original Message --------
From: Weisberg <weisberg@texoma.net>
Subject: Re: I need your help
To: ga@dnso.org
CC: Rob Richie <FairVote@compuserve.com>

Rob,

Thanks for this information about IRV (which I am sharing with the
DNSO
General Assembly).

Rob Richie wrote:

> Eric,
>
> Thanks for writing.
>
> As to your question at the end of the message below: yes, IRV is
> a completely developed system. It is in editions of Robert Rule's
> of Order (termed "preferential voting"), and has been used for decades
> to elect the parliament of Australia and the presidency of Ireland,
> among other places.
>
> I am copying this message to Caleb Kleppner, who should be
> able to follow up with you on any specific questions you might have.
> Good luck.
>
> - Rob Richie, CVD
> ########
>
> I have proposed the use of IRV by an organization (the ICANN  Domain
> Name Supporting Organization General Assembly).  Here is the
> response from the Alternate Chair (who is running the discussion):
>
>      Eric,
>
>      the implications of your note disturb me.
>
>      The implications seem to me to be that:
>
>      - you have volunteered to write a complete description of
>      Instant Run-Off
>      Voting as applied to GA votes. Especially how to deal with
>      ties in the
>      number of votes for the alternatives that might be
>      considered for "losers",
>      which is the most obvious problem I found when considering
>      IRV.
>
>      - you have proposed delaying the vote on the ruleset
>      proposed until such a
>      description is written and agreed to.
>
>      To me, this delay, and the added complexity in the
>      ruleset, is an example
>      of the best being the enemy of the good.
>
> Is IRV a completely developed system which deals with all
> contingencies so that simple reference to that system is sufficient
> definition for incorporation in our governance procedure?
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