Re: Re[2]: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about ICANN

["Richard J. Sexton" <richard@vrx.net>]

Rick?

That information is in my signatuire file and has been for a year or mroe.

If you tired an AXFR ans it didn't work, please let me know. It seems
to work for everybody else. When did you try it?



At 02:08 PM 7/6/00 -0700, Rick H Wesson wrote:
>
>William,
>
>I requested the zones and the ORSC folks have denied me access to the
>zones. I don't think the 'O' in ORSC stands for open anymore.
>
>You can prove me wrong, post how to get the zone files, an axfr would 
>do me just fine if it worked.
>
>All I want is their "root" and the zones they serve, NSI allows me to have 
>the gTLD zones and the "ICANN root" is available via anonymous ftp.
>
>If ORSC is open then why are they reluctant to give up these files, after
>all I just want to do some growth stats on them. Doesn't ORSC want their
>growth verified by an 3rd party?
>
>what are you afraid of?
>
>-rick
>
>
> 
>On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, William X. Walsh wrote:
>
>> Hello Rick,
>> 
>> Getting them is so easy for anyone with any basic knowledge of dns.  I
>> really am surprised that you have not been able to do it yourself and
>> instead post a message insinuating that ORSC is hiding them from you.
>> 
>> I may disagree with ORSC's current positions, but this type of
>> mischaracterization is really out of line, especially on a public
>> list.
>> 
>> Thursday, July 06, 2000, 7:43:08 AM, you wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> > John,
>> 
>> > I would like daily access to the zone files for the TLDs you are laing
>> > claim to.
>> 
>> > please let me know how to get them. this is the 3rd time I have asked OSRC
>> > folks how to get thier zones. at least NSI provides a method that anyone
>> > can get them.
>> 
>> > so, are you open or does the "O" in ORSC stand for obfuscatory.
>> 
>> > -rick
>> 
>> 
>> > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, John Palmer wrote:
>> 
>> >> ON THE EVE OF YOKOHAMA - A RADIO AD CAMPAIGN WARNING INTERNET 
>> >> USERS ABOUT THE DAMAGE THAT ICANN WILL DO IF IT STAYS ON ITS 
>> >> PRESENT COURSE
>> >> 
>> >> CHICAGO, July 5, 2000 /BusinessWire/
>> >> 
>> >> AGN Domain Name Service, Inc (ADNS - http://www.adns.net) today announce 
>> >> that it will be launching a radio ad campaign to educate users about 
>> >> ICANN and the changes that may be coming to the internet as a result of 
>> >> ICANN's policies.
>> >> 
>> >> ICANN stands for the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and
Numbers - the 
>> >> organization that is attempting to make policy on the future of the
internet. 
>> >> ICANN is holding a conference in Yokohama, Japan on July 13 - 17 and
may vote 
>> >> on new domain policy at that time.
>> >> 
>> >> John Palmer,  president and CEO of ADNS warns all internet users to
watch the 
>> >> developments carefully. "Changes are coming to the internet and they
aren't 
>> >> all good", Palmer said. "Special interests have hijacked the process
and are 
>> >> influencing policy in a way that will be bad for internet users and
especially 
>> >> domain holders". Palmer cites the heavy influence of the World
Intellectual 
>> >> Property Organization (WIPO) as an example. "WIPO wants registrars to
be burdened 
>> >> with the task of trademark policemen - a task that belongs in the
courts, not 
>> >> on the backs of registrars, many of the small businesses with limited
resources".
>> >> 
>> >> Another seemingly contradictory stand that ICANN is taking is their
refusal to 
>> >> recognize the intellectual property rights of Top-Level Domain (TLD)
owners. 
>> >> "ICANN seems to be interested in the protection of intellectual
property, but 
>> >> refuses to recognize the ownership of  TLDs by those who claimed them
via the 
>> >> legitimate service mark process, such as ADNS did with EARTH, USA and
Z.", 
>> >> Palmer said. He says that the biggest threat to domain name holders
however, 
>> >> is that the ICANN process would attempt to have domain holders sign
away their 
>> >> rights to use the courts to resolve disputes regarding domain ownership.
>> >>  
>> >> Palmer is not opposed to the concept of ICANN. "The concept of an
organization 
>> >> permanently assigned to govern the few aspects of the internet that
require 
>> >> oversight is a good one, however this particular process has gone
horribly wrong 
>> >> and permanent damage to the Internet will occur if it is not stopped
and fixed".
>> >> 
>> >> The radio ad campaign which will air continuously on several
nationally syndicated 
>> >> shows will begin later this week and will run for about 10 days. It
will inform 
>> >> users about ICANN and will point them to a website that contains more
detailed 
>> >> information. One of the solutions suggested is for ISPs and internet
users to 
>> >> point their machines away from the root servers operated by ICANN and to 
>> >> alternative providers who are not under ICANN's control. Instructions
for doing 
>> >> this are available at various websites, including that of ADNS.
>> >> 
>> >> Palmer also announced today that ADNS's  root nameserver, ASLAN, a member 
>> >> of the Open Root Server Consortium, received 763,311 hits in June - an 
>> >> increase of over 40% over May. 
>> >> 
>> >> "Registrations of domains ending in EARTH, USA and Z are also up to
several 
>> >> thousand domain names. We have really seen a growth in  registrations
in the 
>> >> past month due to our educational campaign", said Palmer. "What's more
important 
>> >> is that people are switching to other root server networks in large
numbers, 
>> >> showing that they do take notice and are concerned about ICANN".
>> >> 
>> >> ADNS owns the three top-level domains "EARTH", "USA" and "Z" and
provides internet 
>> >> sites with the ability to register a domain under these top-level
domains. ADNS 
>> >> has been providing internet related services since 1993.
>> >> 
>> >> Each month, ADNS will offer free registration, web hosting service and
domain 
>> >> service for those registering a domain in a specific part of the
EARTH, USA or 
>> >> Z hierarchy, provided that they promise to develop public content
under that domain name. 
>> >> This month, anyone who registers a domain which ends in
MISSISSIPPI.USA on July 10th 
>> >> between 4am and 5 am Eastern Time will receive free registration, DNS
and web hosting 
>> >> services for one year.
>> >> 
>> >> ADNS is part of the Open Root Server Consortium (ORSC -
http://www.open-rsc.org ), 
>> >> a group of individuals and organizations who are all interested in an
open, fair 
>> >> and technically sound global Domain Name System for the internet. ADNS
is providing 
>> >> ASLAN free of charge for the use of the internet community. 
>> >> 
>> >> ADNS  also operates the  internet portal site called http://The.EARTH. 
>> >> This site is accessible to any computer that is pointing to the new
DNS servers. 
>> >> 
>> >> SOURCE: AGN Domain Name Service, Inc. 
>> >> 
>> >> CONTACT: John Palmer, jp@adns.net /  312-849-2753
>> >> 
>> 
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>> -- 
>> Best regards,
>>  William                            mailto:william@userfriendly.com
>> 
>> 
>
>

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