Re: Re[6]: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about ICANN

["John Palmer" <jp@ADNS.NET>]

We will not allow him to have a copy of our customer list which is what he
is asking for.

John

----- Original Message -----
From: William X. Walsh <william@userfriendly.com>
To: Rick H Wesson <wessorh@ar.com>
Cc: John Palmer <jp@ADNS.NET>; <ga@dnso.org>; <admin@open-rsc.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 4:54 PM
Subject: Re[6]: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about ICANN


> Hello Rick,
>
> Thursday, July 06, 2000, 2:51:14 PM, you wrote:
>
>
> > William,
>
> > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, William X. Walsh wrote:
>
> >> First of all, the ORSC does not run TLDs. They run a root zone, which
> >> is available via AXFR.  I know this for a fact.  I did an axfr before
> >> posting this message just to make sure that nothing had changed in the
> >> months since I last did one.
>
> > ok, I got the zone now, by ftp, their root server has anonymous ftp on
it.
> > wow, security!
>
> Same way I get the root zone from NSI, anonymous FTP at their FTP
> server.  Wow, openness.
>
> First you try and criticize them for not being open, and then when you
> find you can get it through an open access means, you criticize them
> for not being more closed about it?
>
> Sheesh, Rick, grow up.  Really.
>
> >> As for the TLDs themselves, you have to make arrangements with the TLD
> >> operators themselves.  That has nothing to do with the ORSC.
>
> > ok, I'll try that out seems some are allowing axfr also but the ones
I've
> > gotten so far only have a few deligations on them max, 15 or so. you
think
> > there is anything under .earth or .USA?
>
> Again, you are confusing the TLD operators with the ORSC.  You
> criticized the ORSC, and are now making it about the TLD operators who
> do or do not allow axfr transfers.  Contact the TLD operators, they
> are all independent and run their own show.
>
> >> It seems to me you have not expended any effort at all before posting
> >> incorrect and irresponsible criticism of the ORSC.  As I said before,
> >> I do not agree with the ORSC's positions, but in this case, you owe
> >> them a clear apology.
>
> > gee, have't you read this list for the past 4 years, its all about
posting
> > incorrect and irresponsible criticism of everyone. all I want to know is
> > growth rates for rogue TLDs.
>
> Then take some responsibility for getting the information and checking
> things out before making overly harsh and irresponsible criticisms.
>
> > the ORSC experiment has been going on for some time now and I'd like to
> > verify its success or failure. do you have a problem with that?
>
> No, I don't.  I'm not a part of the ORSC.  Personally, I think it has
> been a failure, and will continue to be so.  But that doesn't mean I
> sponsor your type of publicly irresponsible and baseless attacks and
> criticisms when the information was right in front of your face the
> whole time.
>
> You want the .earth zone?  Email ADNS, don't complain about the ORSC
> not giving it to you when they have nothing to do with it.
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  William                            mailto:william@userfriendly.com
>
>
>

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