Re: [ga] Re: Re: Hackers Hijacking ICANN Elections?

["Roberto Gaetano" <roberto.gaetano@voila.fr>]

Louise,

I think that Jeannette has already drawn your attention on the fact that
 there is a list, in English, where the debate is going on and the 
German candidates are participating.
Incidentally, the list owner has contacted also the NomCom candidates, 
and invited them to join.

The reason why I am intervening is because, on second thoughts, I think 
that your comments, even if done in perfectly good faith, may be 
misinterpreted in a dangerous way.

I believe that it is perfectly legitimate for the Germans to speak in 
German, and to seek for local support. In fact, I wonder whether you 
raise this problem just in principle, or because the Germans are more 
than 50% of the voters, and therefore potentially can decide the outcome
 of these elections.
I am sure that there is a russian mailing list, or other form of 
Internet communication, that allowed Dmitri Bourkov to collect 400+ 
endorsements: he is also not participating too much in other fora (I 
remember having seen only 1 message from him so far).
But this seems to be less of a problem. Why? Because the Russians voters
 are less likely to be able to determine the outcome.

I would like to reduce the nationalistic aspect of this election. If 
there are more German members, it is because in Germany these elections 
have been taken seriously. There are debates on the press, activities of
 all sort, while in other countries this did not happen. Who are we, the
 non-native Germans, to force them to behave differently? In my opinion,
 the German-speaking Internet community is better informed, up to now, 
than the Italian or Spanish or any other. And this is laudable from 
their part, and a shame for the others that were unable to provoke the 
public interest to the same extent.

As I commented to Jeannette in a private message, it is likely that we 
will have a German AtLarge Director. So what? For instance, now we have 
two French Directors and no Germans, and this did not create any 
problem.

My bottom line is that in building the Internet it is very important to 
have a common language, that may be English, but it is equally important
 not to forget that people have different cultures and also different 
mother-languages, and to stigmatize activities that are not going on in 
English can be a dangerous approach.


Regards
Roberto



>Bret
>Effective organising is fine, but when most of us don't speak the same
>language as the organisers.....?
>What I mean is, we don't know what is going on, because there is a 
language
>barrier, so we cannot get our hands on 'real' documents and understand 
them.
>Donnerhacke's only post anywhere that I can find in English is to the 
IBC
>Tollfree survey, which is a (presumably deliberate) misrepresentation 
of his
>position. Donnerhacke, Mueller-Maguhn et al are not campaigning at all
>within the English/Spanish/Portuguese/French... speaking communities, 
only
>to Germans.
>
>ICANN has thrown us all in the same pot when we can't communicate with 
one
>another.
>Perhaps you wouldn't feel quite the same if the US candidates with the 
bulk
>of nominations had their on-line material and web sites in Chinese, 
only got
>any coverage in the Chinese media and only contributed to Chinese 
forums and
>e-mail lists.
>
>Louise
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Bret A. Fausett <baf@FAUSETT.COM>
>To: <DOMAIN-POLICY@LISTS.NETSOL.COM>
>Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 8:17 PM
>Subject: Re: Hackers Hijacking ICANN Elections?
>
>
>> > A German hacker group looks set to win a seat on the board of
>> > domain name regulator ICANN, the Internet Corporation for
>> > Assigned Names and Numbers, possibly confirming fears that the
>> > controversial election procedure could be hijacked by special
>> > interest groups.
>>
>> "hijacked?"
>>
>> Over here we call voter registration and political activism effective

>grass
>> roots organizing. It's a feature.
>>
>>       -- Bret
>
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