Re: [ga] Re: [announce] Jonathan Cohen elected for 3 years term at the ICANN Board

[Bob Davis <bob.davis@netzero.net>]

Roberto and everybody,

Roberto Gaetano wrote:

> William,
>
> Personally, I don't like (easy) generalizations and I have a definite
> preference (that has caused me problems, and is still doing so!) to call
>  people and things with firstname and lastname (literal translation from
>  italian idiom = does it make sense in English?).
>
> What do you mean by "DNSO"?
> I did not have the impression that the GA (which is part of the DNSO,
> IMHO) had any role at all in the election. I cannot even remember a post
>  of the old/new director to the GA list, neither evidence of him reading
>  any of the stuff over here.

  The DNSO GA assembly members *Should*  have a role in the NC's
election to be sure.  I had thought that it did?

>
>
> The real point is that it is time to revise the rules of the game. We
> experimented something with the DNSO, we have different opinions on its
> succesfulness, but maybe consensus on the need to revise its
> effectiveness/representativity.

  Not only was the *Experiment* a failure, but was damaging to many
stakeholders in it's results thus far.  That someday will come home
to roost.

> The elections, whose method is also to
> be analysed to check for improvement, are just one point among others.

  The improvements have already been hashed over several times Roberto
the DNSO and ICANN is well received as being *Captured* that is not
a reasonable thing...

>
> BTW, on this subject, let me say loud and clear that I have no problem
> with the person elected but serious reservations on the method.

  The method lead to the person(s) elected as the method was well know
to be skewed from the start...

> As I
> said already, a subset of the NC (11 people are sufficient) can nominate
> , endorse, and elect, not caring at all what everybody else in the DNSO
> thinks or does.

  Yes, and this is a poor method...

>
>
> IMHO, this is a farce.
> But the DNSO itself is not (still IMHO).

  Well your opinion is in the minority....  But yes this is a farce to be
sure.

>
> Therefore, the DNSO has to stand up and correct the situation before it
> collapses. The point is that, with the current system, the elected
> Director does not represent the DNSO, but just the NC (and maybe 3 or 4
> constituencies, at the most).

  Agreed at least in part.  I would say that the NC doesn't even
realistically
represent even 3 or 4 constituencies, not to mention that the Constituency
Model is seriously flawed.

>
>
> Regards
> Roberto
>
> >Hello Kristy,
> >
> >Friday, September 15, 2000, 1:14:01 PM, you wrote:
> >
> >> This is the saddest news I've read today.
> >
> >> I don't know whom the decision makers really are; but they should
> feel ashamed
> >> right now, if not because they ought to; then because it is the
> feeling that
> >> will be with them from here on out.
> >
> >Did anyone really expect any other result?  The DNSO is a captured
> >body, and Cohen is their virtual poster boy.
> >
> >His "election" was a given I thought.
> >
> >
> >--
> >Best regards,
> > William                            mailto:william@userfriendly.com
> >
> >
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