[ga] Re: CA-IDNO Current Status

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Karl and all,

  This is my last response to this thread...  (See more below Karls
antics/response)
I have also trimmed the CC list some to be more realistic.  Please excuse the
still existent cross posts....

Karl E. Peters wrote:

> Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> > Karl and all,
> >   Although this post may seem to be an honest effort in effecting
> > a "NEW" Individual Domain Name Owners organization it should be
> > understood clearly that Karl and his "ADOR" attempted to take over
> > the IDNO some time ago.
>
> HOGWASH!!! If so, why am trying to breath new life into the IDNO and not
> pushing my own group? Think, JEFF!!!

  Given your antics of the recent and also mid term past, I would say your
not trying to do any such thing Karl.  But this is just MHO and the opinion
of a vast majority of our members, not to mention a goodly number of the
IDNO members....

>
>
> > It is may also be in the interest of those
> > whom received this post from Karl, that Bridgecompanies.com is
> > Karls own web site, and not one that belongs to, or is a part of
> > any group of Domain Name holders/Stakeholders.
>
> That is true. What's the point? When Joop destroyed the site and the mailing
> system of the IDNO, we obviously can no longer use it and I use my own mail
> system. What would you do?

  Build an organization first.  Than set up a web site that has the support
of the membership behind it.  Horse first, than cart, not the other way around
Karl.  It is just that simple, yet not so easy to accomplish....

>
>
> >   In addition as spokesman and an observer of the IDNO as well
> > as a guest on the IDNO ML it has been observed that Karl, along
> > with a tiny minority of other IDNO members harassed and engaged
> > in incessant personal attacks against Joop Teernstra on the IDNO ML,
> > the DNSO ML and several other ML forums for many months in a
> > concerted effort to discredit Joop Teernstra, in a very unfair, unjust
> > and horrible manner.
>
> This has been debated ad nauseum and most thinking people would take a very
> different stance. Anyone with any questions on this point, feel free to ask
> for documentation of events that led to these events.

  Agreed, yes please do. I have plenty of good archives!  >;)

>
>
> Very sincerely yours,
>
> Karl E. Peters
>
> Nice try, Jeff!!! You're getting better at FUD and dis-information all the
> time!!!

  Oh please Karl!  Get a grip, will ya!  Sheesh! :(

>
>
> >
> >
> > Karl E. Peters wrote:
> >
> > > All recipients of this mail have exhibited recent interest in internet
> > > domain name policy and are thus included in this mailing of a most
> > > substantive news piece.
> > >
> > >     Many of you have followed the efforts of the CA-IDNO (Cyberspace
> > > Assoc.- Individual Domain Name Owner's organization / constituency) and
> > > will be interested to know that after about 16 months of near constant
> > > conflict over the leadership style of its bootstrap, Joop Teernstra,
> > > that a major event has occurred.  Mr. Teernstra, finally feeling
> > > pressured to give up the control of the many tools that are used to
> > > control the group he started as a "democratic" representation of
> > > individual domain name owners, has now resigned from the group.
> > >
> > >     Instead of simply turning over control of these tools that were
> > > developed for the group and of the website that has chronicled the
> > > history of the group holds much of the critical data such as current
> > > charter and so forth,  Joop has decided to remove all semblance of his
> > > contribution to the group and has effectively tried to cripple the group
> > > he started and was asked to step down from leadership of.
> > >
> > >     It should be noted that immediately upon his stepping down,  pleas
> > > were made for him to remain a part of the group, but merely to remove
> > > himself from leadership for one year so the group could learn to
> > > function as other than a private club and have a better chance to truly
> > > represent the class of people known as individual domain name owners. He
> > > has apparently declined.
> > >
> > >     If you are still interested in these issues and ran away at some
> > > point, from all the fighting within that group, please return now to a
> > > spirit of hope and cooperation. Even having started another group for
> > > these concerns during the darkest days of the CA/IDNO, I too am throwing
> > > what support I can to help get this effort up and running one more time.
> > > If you have interest protecting and developing the rights of the
> > > individual on the internet, you owe it to your self to come and give
> > > just one more try for an organized approach where issues and not
> > > personalities can be the focus.
> > >
> > >     Welcome one and all to write me at idno@bridgecompanies.com if you
> > > will join, either as a participant or an observer. There is a lot of
> > > work to do since Joop took all his toys and went home, but there is also
> > > the new hope of having it count for something without the personality
> > > conflicts that hobbled the original group.
> > >
> > > Sincerely yours,
> > >
> > > Karl E. Peters
> > > idno@bridgecompanies.com
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman INEGroup (Over 112k members strong!)
> > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> > E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> > Contact Number:  972-447-1800 x1894 or 9236 fwd's to home ph#
> > Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman INEGroup (Over 112k members strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number:  972-447-1800 x1894 or 9236 fwd's to home ph#
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208


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