Re: [ga] remote participation

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Joe and all remaining assembly members,

Joe Kelsey wrote:

> Jeff Williams writes:
>  > Dave Crocker wrote:
>  > > This is exactly the IETF model.  It has worked well for 12 years, and
>  > > through massive increases in participation.
>  >
>  >   Yes, but as we have seen over the past 2 years the IETF model is breaking
>  > down and in some specific situations has broken down.  Changed is both
>  > needed and underway.
>
> The only breakdown that has occurred is the presence of people who have
> no stake, either personally or professionally in seeing the process
> work.  I refer to the well-known personas who inhabit this list and who
> do nothing EXCEPT try to impede progress.  If you are a true
> stakeholder, then you have nothing to fear from either a face-to-face
> meeting OR from list participation.  If, on the other hand, you simply
> wish to inflate your own lack of experience or overabundance of ego, you
> can do as those on this list who prefer to beat a subject to death with
> inane and off-topic responses, simply to see their own (made-up?) name
> on a world-wide mailing list.

  I am sorry to see that you take this view.  I certainly don't, and never have.
But I can understand that perception, however inaccurate it may be, is
90% or reality.  But the remaining 10 % is where the rubber meets the road,
as the say!  >;)

>
>
> Face-to-face meetings are a *requirement* of the IETF model, just as
> *civil* behavior on the mailing list is also a requirement.  Some
> members of this list do not seem to grasp either concept.

  Indeed some people seem to have a distinct problem with
civi discourse.  Your above comments towards myself and our members
are a good example of that, unfortunately.

>
>
> /Joe

Regards,

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