Re: [ga] IMPORTANT: One comment from Mr Touton in a Teleconference does not a rule make

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Joanna and all remaining assembly members,

Joanna Lane wrote:

> Harald wrote:-
> announcement of unchanged rules:
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc06/msg00637.html
> mention of the "rule of ten":
> http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/20010226.NCtelecon-minutes.html (agenda item
> 5)
>
> Unfortunately, it did not pop out of "nowhere". If it had, we could send it
> <right back there.
>
> Harald and all remaining members,
>
> Contrary to what you have said, there is NO reference made to the "rule of
> ten" in the DNSO announcement of March 2nd and I contend that the "Rule of
> Ten" is something coined out of somebody's imagination. No such rule exists
> anywhere that I can find. Certainly a clear description of this so called
> "rule" as part of the process used to select the nominee was not
> communicated to the GA.

  Rules in the DNSO have a way of being made up as things go along...
You will eventually figure this out Joanna, if you already haven't....

>
>
> The relevant NC Teleconference minutes for Agenda Item 5 seems to have been
> posted on March 4th, significantly two days after the DNSO Announcement was
> made that election procedures had started. At the NC Teleconference, it was
> agreed that Elizabeth Portneuve would draft a document
> http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2001.DNSO-GAchair.html , which was posted to
> the DNSO website on March 16th, 12 days after procedures had started.
> Reference is made in that document that Teleconference Minutes were not yet
> available. I don't believe the NC can now use these announcements to claim
> that information on the so called "rule of ten" was made readily available
> by the DNSO Secretariat to the GA prior to the start of the election
> process.

  Good point Joanna.  But it seems that they were or are....

>
>
> In fact, I can find no reference to this so called rule at all, save a brief
> mention by Louis Touton during the NC Teleconference Minutes under Agenda
> item 5: DECISION of NC to invite the GA to manage an election process to
> select a nominee for appointment by the NC to the position of Chair of the
> GA.
>
> "L. Touton recalled that there was a procedure in place used for the last
> election: nomination of a candidate by GA, endorsement by 10 members
> required, all candidates endorsed (there were 2) presented to the NC for
> election. On that occasion, the NC elected one of the presented candidates
> as GA Chair and one as Alternate Chair."

Seems like a bit of "Election manipulating" going on here doesn't it?

>
>
> There is no indication of whether or not other NC members agreed with Mr
> Touton and the Decision that was unanimously agreed at the end of that
> meeting referred only to proceeding in terms of the Bylaws. There is no
> "rule of ten" in the Bylaws.
>
> Finally, it is interesting to note that during the NC Teleconference, Erica
> Roberts reminded members that at its meeting in LA the NC had indicated it
> would be guided by the GA in appointing a new GA Chair.
>
> *One comment from Mr Touton in a teleconference does not a rule make.*

  Oh contrair!  Louis Touton is the LAW for ICANN!  Of course along
with Joe Sims and Vint Cerf....

>
>
> <There is nothing in your comment that fits with a
> >sense of fair play and frankly, I am very disappointed to think the NC
> would
> >stoop so low.
>
> The comment I heard from the NC was that the NC hoped to "appoint" the GA
> chair this year in the same sense that the Queen of England "appoints" the
> Prime Minister: because it is the right thing to do.
> I think no NC member is less unhappy with this silliness than I am.

  Silliness is a common practice of the DNSO GA Chair, the NC and some
of the ICANN BoD members is seems...

>
>
> Go endorse!
>
> Glad to hear it Harald, so let's please stick to the facts and the facts do
> not support your contention. There is absolutely no relation between the
> Queen of England and the NC. She is a monarch, not a dictator.

  Ahhh, but Harald doesn't view it that way....

>
>
> In conclusion,  I move that the so called "rule of ten" be dismissed by a
> formal motion of the GA voting assembly, then the NC will have the guidance
> they obviously need.

  Here here!  But don't count on it!

>
>
> Joanna
>
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