RE: [ga] CONFLICT OF INTEREST

[Roeland Meyer <rmeyer@mhsc.com>]

> From: Roberto Gaetano [mailto:ga_chair@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 11:43 AM
> 
> >It is the ex-chair of the IAHC and the PAB chair (D'Crock 
> and Crispin) that
> >were the most staunch proponents for an exclusive-elite 
> model. Both had
> >involvement in CORE, to my knowlege.
> 
> Can you please tell me which involvement, in what capacity, 
> and possibly 
> substantiate this with any documentation in support?

As my disclaimer stated "to my knowlege". I had not claimed certainty. CORE
came about from the IAHC process. Whom did what to whomelse is not clearly
known outside of that process and that opacity is/was one of the chief
complaints against the IAHC. Incidently, this is also what gave rise to the
ORSC.

> I have been one of the "founding" members of CORE, in the 
> sense that the 
> company I was working for participated in the initial phases, 
> and I attended 
> in Tokyo the very first meeting of CORE, the one where the seat was 
> established (BTW, I have been the one who insisted in voting 
> right away for 
> the seat, endorsing Geneva, when some orientation in CORE 
> wanted to postpone 
> the issue). 

What seat(s) are you talking about?

> I did not see either then, nor did I see them in 
> the following 
> months. I subscribed to the PAB list, and so read something 
> from Kent (and 
> confess that I appreciated him very much as a PAB Chair).
> I was never involved in the IAHC, but have been the elected 
> CORE rep in POC, its successor, so I should know. POC and CORE, even if on

> some basic issues 
> were agreeing (for instance on the Registry as a public service) had 
> different positions on several issues, and had different 
> approaches (which 
> is pretty logical, if you think that CORE was an association 
> for business 
> purposes, while POC was a policy oversight body, where CORE 
> was represented, 
> but other very different realities were represented as well).
> I have also been for a while in CORE's ExCom, had access to 
> each and every 
> CORE document, and never found any mention of Kent or Dave, 
> except for some 
> reference to e-mail messages in the PAB list (public, though).

The relevent points are that the IAHC agenda was propogated through its
children. If it weren't for the IAHC, CORE would not have had a venue.

> But without any doubt, you (that have never been part of 
> either CORE or POC) 
> know better than me all the details.

No I don't and that was my major point. The whole thing was very opaque and
what was visible was obfuscated. The term "alphabet soup" comes to mind.

> Well, the IAHC and its successor POC are out of the picture, CORE has 
> evolved dramatically since those days in 1997, and this whole 
> argument that 
> we have had all these years along is now moot,

As you say, it is almost irrelevent. However, the ORSC was born out of
direct opposition to what much of the IAHC/POC/PAB/CORE group(s) were doing
and policies that they were creating, as well as the methods that were being
used to create them.

> but my single 
> question stays, 
> on a different list now but with the same simplicity: if you 
> know something 
> that I don't know about CORE, POC, and their secret plans to 
> take over the 
> world, please tell me, please show me one single document 
> that proves any 
> practical involvement of Dave Crocker and/or Kent Crispin in CORE.
> 
> If I have been blind and stupid, at least I would like to know ;>)

Actually, that wasn't the point that I was fielding. I espouse no conspiracy
theories. I am trying to view the gestalt.

When I first became involved with this whole mess, I gravitated towrds the
more inclusive group. It wasn't the IAHC and Co.

Oh well, my copy of Jbuilder Enterprise just arrived and I will e busy for a
few days. I have a DevLab to upgrade.
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