Re: [ga] GA until December 1999 and since January 2000

[Eric Dierker <Eric@hi-tek.com>]

Dear Harald & Elisabeth,

Mr. Walsh called me a newbie.  He is right and I thank him along with you two and
the many others for helping all of us newbies.  While I don't think getting
initiated into this process is for everyone it has been a great experience.  One
is not ignored in this process.

I was thinking about how brutal the process is for us newbies, and then I reread
the following posts and realized that it was I who was being brutal.  I
apologize.  I can only imagine how it was for Roberto and Harald, what a frontier
they have significantly helped to settle.  And now I come in and demand a
perfectly civilized culture yesterday.  Again I apologize.

I wish I could make others realize how far we have come and how relatively new
ICANN is, and how it truly is working toward it's objectives. And I know that we
will do that and it just takes some time, Education, Outreach & Multilingualism to
get it done.

Thank you all for working hard for my childrens' internet.

Sincerely,

p.s. Don't think this means I am going to lighten up on you, or be nice.

Elisabeth Porteneuve wrote:

> I have been working as the DNSO Secretariat since June 2nd 1999.
>
> Several people on this list are here from the very start, and
> have been witnessing the days when there were no Chair and Alternate
> Chair, no list rules formaly established.
>
> Since January 2000, Roberto Gaetano and Harald Alvestrand have
> been working very hard with all members to the DNSO lists, with
> the Secretariat, the Names Council and ICANN staff and Board aliake,
> to make the GA a place for substantial debate and substantial
> documents (*), with rules for list, for votes, and now for the
> GA Chair election.
>
> Please note the DNSO GA is the only place within the ICANN structure
> where everybody is welcome to subscribe to a mailing list and
> to participate actively. One thousand members on all DNSO lists.
> Such a place of openess and generosity is precious, but also
> fragile and difficult.
>
> Thanks to all for preserving this.
>
> Elisabeth Porteneuve
>
> (*) Last week the GA document on ICANN-VeriSign contract along with
> the Constituencies ones, has been sent by the Names Council Chair to the
> ICANN Board as "DNSO Input of Proposed VeriSign Agreement Revisions",
> http://www.icann.org/melbourne/dnso-input-verisign-revisions-28mar01.htm
>
> > From owner-ga@dnso.org Sat Mar 31 08:19 MET 2001
> > Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010331080213.07d32978@localhost>
> > X-Sender: hta@localhost
> > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 08:14:40 +0200
> > To: Eric Dierker <Eric@hi-tek.com>, <ga@dnso.org>
> > From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@Alvestrand.no>
> > Subject: List rules again (Re: [ga] Re: (6))
> > Mime-Version: 1.0
> >
> > At 00:18 31/03/2001 -0800, Eric Dierker wrote:
> > >     2.    One man, to date has been Harald decides what is wrong or right
> > > on freedom of speech issues?  No this is not good and looks bad.  I would
> > > set up a committee of three and give 48 hour notices and response time or
> > > more.  Immediacy in stopping public opinion is not necessary.  To tell
> > > you the truth it looks like book burning.
> > >Regardless of the antagonist Jeff from Texas.  Many of the the things we
> > >said today rate far worse than what he was accused of doing.
> >
> > Reminders:
> >
> > 1) The rules are at http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-ga-rules.html
> > 2) The rules were adopted by list vote, gathering a majority of 46 out of
> >     55 votes, November 6-17, 2000. This was the first vote to be taken after
> >     a voting rule had been voted in by the GA members.
> > 3) The rules do not mandate a single list monitor, or that this list monitor
> >     should be the alternate chair. There have been no volunteers to help
> >     with the job; I think we need at least one more person.
> > 4) I will argue strenously that the list monitor needs the right to act
> >     rapidly - that means the ability to act on his own. There is an appeals
> >     procedure in place (appeal to GA chair).
> >     (This also means that the GA chair SHOULD NOT be a list monitor....)
> > 5) I regard the idea that my employer is relevant to my integrity as
> >     a personal insult.
> >     Remember - we ALL work for someone. If one allows silencing on that
> >     basis, we are on a very slippery slope indeed.
> > 6) On the "others have been worse than Jeff" argument:
> >     Surprisingly, no complaint has been lodged with the list monitor over
> >     any behaviour except that of Jeff Williams. The list monitor has chosen
> >     not to generate any complaint either.
> >     This does NOT mean that angry participants don't need to tone down!
> >
> >

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