Re: [ga] No Members?

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Kristy and all remaining assembly members,

  Yes, I am sure many of us would like to know and have an official
accounting posted.  Possibly and outside audit is in order?  I think
it is.  Lets see if the ICANN BoD and staff will allow such an audit...
My guess is that they won't...

Kristy McKee wrote:

> Now that we've heard from the cheerleaders will someone from the team
> please answer the question... I'd like to know where the money went as well.
>
> ~k
> At 01:09 PM 4/4/2001 -0500, Bruce James wrote:
> >Thank you, Dave. I have started a 501(c)(3) non-profit and now sit on three
> >501(c)(3) Boards. I think I might have a little more experience in IRS
> >regs., but not in Calf., law.
> >
> >It does not sit right that ICANN has a grant for a Membership Program
> >Manager and computer software for members and has no members.
> >
> >I am a member of the AtLarge group and did cast a vote at the last Board
> >Election. I think about 70,000 other AtLarge members cast their votes also.
> >
> >/Bruce
> >
> >~IANAL~ I Am Not A Lawyer. Seek legal advice.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Dave Crocker" <dhc2@dcrocker.net>
> >To: "Bruce James" <bmjames@swbell.net>
> >Cc: <ga@dnso.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 12:53 PM
> >Subject: Re: [ga] No Members?
> >
> >
> >People use the term "member" informally all the time; it's
> >convenient.  That does not mean that their use in any way relates to the
> >legalities associated with formal use of the term.
> >
> >People often refer to IETF "members" but, in fact, there is no such
> >thing.  There are participants, but nothing that constitutes membership.
> >
> >Instead of looking around for non-legal examples that use the term, why not
> >pay attention to the very simple and direct explanations that have been
> >provided.  They are not very complicated.
> >
> >California non-profits MAY have members, but they do not have to.  It is,
> >in fact, more common that they do NOT have members because of management
> >complexity when formal membership exists.  (I have run a 503(c)(3) and a
> >503(c)(6).)  I am not a lawyer, but this issue is extremely well
> >understood, concerning non-profit formation.
> >
> >d/
> >
> >ps.  What is the productive goal in pursuing this matter in such
> >detail?  Are there no other issues for the GA to consider?
> >
> >
> >At 09:54 AM 4/4/2001, Bruce James wrote:
> > >OK, I am dumb.... Why did the Markle Foundation say in its Grant:
> > >
> > >1) Membership Program Manager - 6 months including benefits    $30,000
> > >
> > >If we don't have any *Members*?? Did ICANN return the money?
> >
> >----------
> >Dave Crocker   <mailto:dcrocker@brandenburg.com>
> >Brandenburg InternetWorking   <http://www.brandenburg.com>
> >tel: +1.408.246.8253;   fax: +1.408.273.6464
> >
> >
> >
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