[ga] Robeto is right

[Jefsey Morfin <jefsey@wanadoo.fr>]

Dear Roberto,
my poor English was impressed by a phrase of Love Story (one has his own 
references !!!)  which said "love means no having to say you are sorry". I 
certainly support your call for some traffic dwindling but we are among 
grown boys and we should enjoy the fun rather than taking it seriously. 
This should be a like brain storming period. At least this is how I took it 
with people like you, I know, respect and trust.

Now. I think you are quite right. The traffic is too high. This is due to 
Danny who started too soon the Inclusive Name Space Management issue 
without having prepared the necessary lists. He explained it. This is OK. 
Now I think we should follow what the old Chair says and the news Chair 
called for:

1. create asap an ML to discuss the request of a WG-Inclusive Name Space 
Management concerning the iCANN Management and not the legitimacy of its 
neighbors

2. create asap the continuation of the WG-Review to keep going its four 
months old momentum

3. create asap a WIPO2 ML as the matters are of importance

4. start asap the discussion of the decorum stuff - not for any decorum but 
for the rules to be reviewed and everyone know his role. I think that 
seconded motions not acknowledged by the Chair and not put to a vote do as 
much as poor wording to exasperate an ML.

Stop thinking the others are less smart/dump than ourselves.
Cheers.

Jefsey

PS. I would like to nominate Roberto as Chair of the Inclusive Name Space 
Management ML.

He has the capacity to conduct a difficult matter in an courteous way. He 
opposes my ideas enough to avoid the ML to be said biased. I trust him to 
stick to an open and wide vision of the matter (if we want to be credible 
and constructive we have to address a lot of new questions and consider the 
things in a middle/long term perspective). He is also able to produce a 
fair report even if he disagrees with some of the conclusions.






On 18:43 17/04/01, Roberto Gaetano said:
>Hi.
>In re-reading my post (below), and JFC's original, I think I did 
>misinterpret it and my answer was not to the mark.
>Maybe this can bring me (and maybe all of us) to a reflection about how 
>things are going in these last few days on the list.
>
>The conflictuality is rising beyond acceptable limits, the [ga-abuse] has 
>more traffic than the GA list itself, people (including me in my last 
>post) argue and reply almost automatically. The amount of things to read 
>is raising so much that I start doubting that anybody with a day job can 
>read all posts, and down to the last row.
>
>This is creating further misunderstandings, further replies, further 
>appeals to [ga-abuse].
>Can we stop it for a minute, and take a breath before restart?
>
>I cannot understand how otherwise reasonable peopel can tear eachother to 
>pieces in a mailing list.
>The [ga-abuse] is supposed to be there to handle the supposedly few 
>exceptions that go beyond the reasonable decorum. More than better define 
>exact rules, which will mean that from the next post we will watch which 
>post will pass these limits, we need collaboration in keeping the 
>arguments sound and the tone correct.
>
>We are getting back to where we started 1.5 years ago, when the situation 
>was such as the GA did not have any credibility. If we continue along this 
>path, there will be no point in making a good argument, because the GA 
>will be so short of credibility that nobody "outside" will pay any attention.
>
>Anyway, can I just ask everybody to think twice before hitting the "send" 
>button for a message that contains text with dubious decorum, and to avoid 
>personal arguments? Think that the more we argue in this way, the less we 
>all globally count, no matter who is right and who is wrong.
>
>Regards
>Roberto
>
>P.S.: my apologies to Jefsey for having misinterpreted his message, and 
>overreacted about.
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: "Roberto Gaetano" <ga_chair@hotmail.com>
>>To: jefsey@wanadoo.fr, ga@dnso.org
>>Subject: RE: [ga] Dave: "they are free"
>>Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:01:51 +0200
>>
>>Jefsey,
>>
>>>you will certainly use all the wrong subtilities to show you are right to
>>>be wrong.... :-)
>>
>>One thing we can surely agree upon, and that is that we have a different
>>perception of what is right and what is wrong.
>>
>>>
>>>We went over that a long ago and at the end of the day you gave up saying
>>>that it was like private PABX. I suppose that nobody is going to validate
>>>an extension into your own .com PABX?
>>
>>The reason why I give up saying things is that, when I think that I made my
>>point across, I do not fight for having the last word.
>>It serves no purpose for me (it is useless loss of time) and no purpose for
>>the others, because it usually not only does not convey additional
>>information, but makes people tired of hearing the same stuff and bizanthine
>>counter-examples.
>>
>>This is why I let you continue arguing alone that time, and will do again
>>this time. Feel free to think that I thought to be wrong this time as well
>>;>).
>>
>>Regards
>>Roberto
>>
>>
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