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RE: [ga] Re: Suspension of Voting Rights
Taking food from the mouths of starving children to fund the organization
which does not support the interests of the masses is one way of looking
at it. Another is to say that the real cause is the starving
children and the fact that they dare to be hungry.
Without the DNSO ICANN has no legitimacy. Of course the DNSO is
needed to support the status quo. Whether or not the DNSO can
affect real change on ICANN and its 'policies' is open. To think
that lower-level sub-groups like a constituency or GA for that matter can
affect the DNSO (read NC) is a further abstraction from reality.
If the DNSO is needed by ICANN then ICANN should support it. If
VeriSign were really smart they would slip the constituencies some money
and make this troublesome issue go away, THis debate is just
calling more attention to issues which will help challenge the
continuation of the status quo. Thanks for the help!
BA
At 12:08 PM 4/29/01 -0400, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
Danny,
Please help me understand how you could be aware of the facts and
yet
proceed to use a word like "tyranny?" That is an
emotionally charged term
that seems to be designed to incite anger rather than understanding
and
discussion and certainly not a word that describes the action that the
NC
took.
It is not at all clear that the NC action is inconsistent with ICANN
bylaws
but the Bylaws are vague enough in this regard that clarification
seemed
wise. If it is decided that there is a conflict with the Bylaws,
then I
think the Bylaws should be changed.
I would venture to say that we VeriSign was a lot better off before
the
ICANN process, but we have tried to be cooperative in that process.
So
whether or not our benefits have exceeded the drawbacks is open to
debate,
but that is not the topic of discussion here so I will move on.
It is my personal belief that DNSO independence from ICANN is
extremely
important. I understand that the DNSO is a part of ICANN structure,
but
within that structure, DNSO independence lends much more credibility to
DNSO
recommendations. Therefore, I believe that a self-funded DNSO is
much
better than one funded by ICANN. Moreover, that is consistent with
the
other Supporting Organizations, both of which are self-funded.
I also believe that DNSO constituencies should be able to demonstrate
a
certain amount of viability. There are lots of ways to do this, one
of
which is the ability to generate minimal amounts of finances.
Another is to
develop leadership that is able to organize its members to
effectively
respond to issues and to financially support the organization. The
latter
can mean soliciting funds from charitable organizations to support
their
cause.
BTW, there are lots of signs that the NCDNHC is developing that
leadership
and therefore its viability.
The bottom line with regard to DNSO constituency dues is this: the
most and
maybe the only critical value to being a member of the DNSO and the NC
is
the right to vote so the only way to effectively ensure payment of dues
set
by the whole NC is to threaten loss of the one right that people
value.
Obviously, my conclusion here is based on my assumption that DNSO
funding
should not come from ICANN, thereby making the DNSO less dependent on
ICANN
for its viability as an organization and therefore presumably more
freely
able to set its own course.
The need for a professional secretariat, especially one that commits
a
serious amount of time and effort toward the development of
effective
consensus-building processes and procedures, is critical in my
mind. Every
NC representative as well as most DNSO members are volunteers who have
full
time jobs that more than fill their time without the added
responsibilities
they assume in the DNSO. To expect them to also perform the huge
task of
leading the efforts of developing and implementing an effective
consensus-building process is probably unreasonable and destined to
failure.
At least in the near future, I believe that will require the efforts of
a
full-time person whose primary responsibility is to focus on that
objective.
At the same time, I strongly believe that the success of ICANN is
heavily
dependent on the success of the DNSO. Consequently, I place a very
high
priority on this.
Chuck
-----Original Message-----
From: babybows.com
[mailto:webmaster@babybows.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 7:27
AM
To: ga@dnso.org
Subject: [ga]
Re: Suspension of Voting Rights
Chuck,
I am well aware of the specific terms approved. Please do not
presume that
I am speaking out of ignorance. I am also aware that this NC action
is not
consistent with the ICANN ByLaws, and that a request for clarification
of
such, posted to Louis Touton by Philip Sheppard on 13 April, and
reiterated
by Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales on 21 April, has still gone
unanswered.
Your constituency and others have enormously profited from participation
in
the ICANN process, and yet rather than seeking solutions which
facilitate
greater participation and reduce barriers to entry, you have elected
to
pursue a punitive policy which stands at odds with White Paper
principles.
As a reminder, the White Paper calls for "input from the broad
and growing
community of Internet users". How does your
solution serve to advance the
needs of our growing community?
Is there a fear to ask the ICANN Board for funding? There have
certainly
been many changes made to the ByLaws in the past, and asking for a
change
that would allow for expenses reasonably related to the legitimate
activities of the Corporation (such as DNSO administrative and
operational
costs) is certainly preferable to a course of action that would
potentially
disenfranchise segments of our membership.
This "reticent action" that you describe seems to place a
higher priority on
the "need" to fund a professional Secretariat, than on the
"need" to ensure
the "rights" of your fellow participants.
You are blessed with ample funding; others that seek to join in the
ICANN
process are not. Are you advocating that only those
with sufficient funds
have a place at ICANN's table? I am of the view that if
we are a part of
ICANN, then ICANN should be underwriting all of our expenses. If we
are not
a part of ICANN, then perhaps we should be invoicing ICANN for
policy
guidance to the same degree that ICANN is invoiced for legal
advice.
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