Re[2]: [ga] Re: [ADMIN] Two Week Suspension of Eric Dierker

["William X. Walsh" <william@userfriendly.com>]

Hello Harald,

Monday, May 07, 2001, 2:25:33 AM, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:

> At 21:39 06.05.2001 -0700, William X. Walsh wrote:
>>Also of the change in policy by the list monitors from the previously
>>posted policy, which said that list sanctions were unique to each
>>list, rather than the universal sanction they are not seeking and in
>>fact have exercised against Mr Dierker.

> This matters belongs on the ga-int list.

> The previous list rules belonged to the ga list, which was then the only 
> list in existence.
> The list monitors, after considering arguments both for and against, 
> decided that until other policies were declared, the new lists should be 
> considered sublists of the main list rather than completely independent 
> list entities.

> This is a judgment call; all of the lists belong to the GA, but since they 
> did not exist at the time the list rules were written, the list rules did 
> not describe how they related to the main list.

It doesn't matter.

The point was that previous posts regarding the list rules and these
lists indicated that in fact the policy would be that each list was
separate as far as this type of enforcement action.

The announcement made along with this particular sanction was in fact
a change in the policy, and as such it was inappropriate for it to be
applied to the enforcement action in question.

The enforcement action in question should be, at the very minimum,
modified to apply only to the GA list itself, or only to the lists
for which a valid complaint was acted on by a list monitor according
to the rules.

If you want to announce a rule and apply it to future actions, that
is one thing.

This amounted to an ex post facto implementation of the rule, and was
inappropriately handled.

-- 
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William X Walsh
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