RE: [ga] Austerity measures

["Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law" <froomkin@law.miami.edu>]

I'm sorry, but I simply cannot imagine how it can take this much time to
maintain a list.  We have dozens here at the law school, and they don't
take anything close to that amount of time.

On Tue, 15 May 2001, Alexander Svensson wrote:

> 
> Roberto Gaetano wrote on 14.05.01, 21:11:26:
> > I would second Roeland's comment below:
> >
> >>
> >>I share the incredulity... the answer is ... not much. Especially
> >>considering that the ga-full is not moderated. It was the compromise that
> >>enabled moderation on the GA list.
> >
> > I think that the NC should reconsider the matter, because closing down the
> > GA-full will definitively destabilize the compromise achieved one year ago.
> > The idea to restart from scratch the whole discussion about monitoring and
> > censorship, right now that we seem to start making some progress, is
> > frightening.
> 
> I have listened to the Names Council teleconference
> meeting (thanks, Bret!), and it turns out that,
> according to the Secretariat, the setup time for 
> the five new GA sublists was about *twenty* hours of 
> secretariat work, the typical maintenance costs are about 
> *two* hours per day (Philip Sheppard referring to figures by
> Elisabeth Porteneuve, DNSO Secretariat; unfortunately it 
> is very much at the end of the 14 MB audio file Bret Fausett 
> recorded).
>   http://www.lextext.com/nc05092001.html
> 
> If you listen to the NC discussion of the issue, you 
> will probably /not/ get the impression that this is a ploy
> to silence the uncomfortable voices or something alike
> [just to make sure: I'm obviously not addressing Roberto
> here!]. Philip Sheppard: "As I understand, for reasons of
> history, there are two main GA lists, one of which was
> designed to be entirely open, the other one was moderated.
> The one [list] that is moderated is the one that is used 
> by hundreds, and the one that's entirely open tends to 
> be used as a duplicate list and has a current subscription 
> of about ten; and I was wondering if it was not time, in 
> terms of being pragmatic, to suggest the closure of that 
> list in light of these new five, which would save a 
> little bit of administrative time." The other NC members 
> agreed.
> 
> This said, I agree with Roberto that the GA-full list should 
> be continued nonetheless. I would assume that any tasks 
> connected with archiving and dealing with subscriptions 
> are much more time-consuming for all the other lists. The 
> GA-full has very few subscribers and, as Roberto mentions, 
> the fact that it is unmoderated should make the administration
> even easier. There is little to be gained moneywise, 
> but there is a real risk of returning to an earlier point and 
> state of discussion which we had hoped to have gotten past.
> 
> I ask Philip and the other NC members to reconsider this step,
> especially as it is indeed the /moderation/ which requires 
> extra work:
>   http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/council/Arc05/msg00301.html
> 
> Best regards,
> /// Alexander
> 
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