Re: [ga] could the DNSO/GA be penetrated? proposition for a FireWall

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Jefsey and all assembly members,

Jefsey Morfin wrote:

> Dear Danny,
> the work you may achieve is amazing. You are worth a task force by
> yourself, as if you were full time on this issue. With such a work achieved
> I feel quite disturbing you do not even considered Eric's question.

  I also find this rether amazing as well...

>
>
> Until very recently - only due to your action, and only on the GA but may
> be disseminating - the IDNH project has become a confuse "IC" project [cf.
> your motion and your response], what made it fail in Stockholm.

  Agreed.

>
>
> On 05:26 10/06/01, Danny Younger said:
> >Eric writes:  "Please define Individuals Constituency.  I have many friends
> >concerned over what we are discussing here."
> >
> >Back in late February, the Names Council Business Plan was first introduced
> >(the URL is:  http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-plan/Arc00/doc00003.doc ).
> >This was shortly after the reports of the Review Working Group and the
> >Review Task Force were issued.  That Business Plan had a section devoted to
> >"DNSO Operation Related" and included the following statement:
> >
> >"5.4 Individuals Constituency. Review the need, uniqueness, potential
> >contribution and representiveness of an individual domain name holder's
> >constituency."
>
> <snip>
>
> Now, let suppose I want to defend the interests of .NAME or .PRO at the
> iCANN what should I do? Identify an  interesting position to be elected to.
> Create confusion there so people spend their time about that confusion.
> Maintain a float some controverted topics active so the world knows there
> are concerns "backing" you and you embody a reasonable clarification of the
> confusion. I would use this support an official outreach effort towards my
> future customers (individuals without a DN but going to have mine) under
> the cover of known and acknowledged supporters - those that Derek calls
> groupies.
>
> I think you will agree that such DNSO/GA penetration is possible and we
> have to take some protection arrangements. All the more than the other
> future gTLDs applicants might not like such an "hi-jacking".
>
> IMHO the following propositions would help us "fire walling" the DNSO/GA:
>
> 1. we stop half confusion and most traffic jam in decommissioning sub-MLs.
> 2. we clearly talk about IDNH as per the last three years
> 3. we select a representative dedicated group of 9 geographic reps to
> seriously interface the NC, the ccTLDs and the BoD on that matter.
> 4. we start seriously to consider the Individual Users ("dotcommer") impact
> on DN policy and how to foster an outreach and a dialog effort
> geographically credible in that area (*)
> 5. electing Joop Teemstra to the BoD with a clear mandate and an
> articulated doctrine.
> 6. developing a far more active relation with *our* Directors. Mr. Abril i
> Amril, Cohen and Pisanty should post more often on their GA ML than Mr.
> Cerf or Mr. Stuart.
> 7. investigating seriously the matter of the strictly DNSO constituencies
> as general interests in the DNS: review of the priorities and concerns of
> *each* of the constituencies. Introduction of a DNS development oriented
> Constituency (both for innovation fostering and for real technical
> competence to be at hand).
>
> Jefsey
>
> (*) This might certainly lead to support an IUSO/AC (Internet User Support
> Organization where both current @large and IDNH could fit together as
> separated constituencies but at equal level with DNSO [gTLDs] and ccTLDs).
>
> >The NC Business Plan was formally adopted in Melbourne, and Interim
> >Committees were created to establish Terms of Reference for Task Forces or
> >"other bodies".  These Terms of Reference were formally adopted in
> >Stockholm.  Discussions led to a recommendation to involve the GA, through a
> >representative, in the process:
> >
> >DNSO Review (Swinehart): Need to discuss implementation of terms of
> >reference. Based on the suggestions from WG-D, which were extensive and
> >conducted openly. Review costs in preparation for moving forward. Question
> >of next steps for individuals constituency - accept proposals, form a
> >further task force, etc.
> >        1.   Sheppard: A task force makes sense. I might volunteer to chair
> >it, if that was acceptable to others.
> >        2.   Swinehart: Consultation.
> >            • Stubbs: Need to include the chairman of the GA.
> >            • Swinehart: A good suggestion.
> >        3.   Swinehart: GA chair (consider changes), Individuals Constituency
> >(determine next steps), language diversity (determine costs, and make a
> >recommendation for a cost-effective means for making translations).
> >        4.   Swinehart: Perhaps we should take proposals from DNSO, and
> >evaluate the various proposals.
> >        5.   Stubbs: Goal is to include some representative of the GA. This
> >may or might not be the GA chair. "GA chair or designee."
> >        6.   Martinez: Is this process consistent with the Bylaws? Bylaws
> >call for self-organizing of constituencies.
> >            • Sheppard: Seems OK. We're anticipating what will happen when a
> >group self-organizes.
> >            • Chicoine: Note that ICANN Board has considered prior proposals.
> >We're just helping move the process forward.
> >http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/stockholm/archive/scribe-nc-060201.html
> >
> >Two days thereafter, the ICANN Board began a discussion pursuant to the
> >motion passed by the General Assembly:
> >
> >N.   General Assembly request re Independent Domain Name Holders
> >Constituency
> >        1.   Cohen: Recall deal in Cairo that ALSC would examine structure of
> >ICANN as a whole. Recommend that we consider this in Montevideo. Look for
> >legitimacy and reasonableness.
> >        2.   Auerbach: There are many individuals joining the DNSO for the
> >purpose of considering domain name policy. At Large considers general ICANN
> >policy (protocols and addresses also). Two concepts shouldn't be mixed.
> >        3.   Mueller-Maguhn: Ask the Board to agree that this request goes to
> >the Public Comment Forum. Should discuss results in Montevideo.
> >        4.   McLaughlin: Procedure in Bylaws. See Article VI. Not clear
> >whether Board has a petition as contemplated by Bylaws. Previously, have
> >seen concern that proposals don't have enough support.
> >        5.   Abril i Abril: Uncomfortable receiving motions from GA or
> >constituencies, but never getting anything from the DNSO as such. DNSO
> >should try to work as an SO, or suggest another structure that they think
> >would work better. Recall also that GA was not supposed to vote.
> >        6.   Lynn: Would have thought that a proposal like this would come
> >through NC, which would make sure that proper background work was done. Many
> >questions about what makes an individual domain name holder. Much work to be
> >done. Also need an impact statement in terms of staff work. Some homework to
> >be done.
> >        7.   Mueller-Maguhn: Nothing wrong with discussion here. But
> >individuals are disorganized by their nature. Similar to problem that
> >non-commercial organizations face in raising funds.
> >        8.   Cerf: Possible to note that we received the GA's communication,
> >that there is a procedure here, but that Bylaws must be followed. Proposal
> >should come through the NC. We would entertain any reasonable proposal in
> >accordance with Bylaws.
> >http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/stockholm/archive/scribe-bod-060401.html
> >
> >The issue is now completely in the hands of the Names Council.  If a
> >definition is required, then the Names Council's DNSO Review Task Force will
> >be the body that addresses that matter.  As Phil Sheppard has volunteered to
> >Chair that Task Force, perhaps your questions/concerns should be directed to
> >him until such time as we select our representative.
> >
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