Re: [ga] Analysis of Atlantic Root .BIZ Registrations to Date

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Jefsey and all assembly members,

  First let me say that you made some excellent points here Jefsey..
(See more below Jefsey's comments)

Jefsey Morfin wrote:

>    Dear Ben,
> I started reading your posted document
> <http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/people/edelman/dotbiz>. I am blocked at
> the
> first phrase which is wrong by ommission.
>
> You say
> "As part of its obligations under itsMemorandum of Understanding with
> the
> U.S. Department of Commerce, ICANN coordinates policies for determing
> the
> addition of new top-level domains to the Internet's DNS root system".
>
> This is inexact. What is true is:
> "As part of its obligations under itsMemorandum of Understanding with
> the
> U.S. Department of Commerce, ICANN coordinates policies for determing
> the
> addition of new top-level domains to the USG Internet's DNS root
> system".
>
> You cannot donate or delegate something you do not have. The DNS
> system is
> a set of different programs by different producers - mostly under GNU
> licences - used by millions of people throughout the world, many of
> who
> never heard and will never hear about the iCANN and the DoC. It uses a
> part
> of the humanity name space (the DNS name space the GAC, the law of
> several
> countries declared to be own by no one and non trade markable at TLD
> level
> - its roots). It only helps them setting up who is authoritative on
> heir
> own machine. You may push Eric out of this list, no one will oblige
> him to
> use the iCANN root if he says no.
>
> The internet belongs to no one. If the USA have been a leading land,
> the
> historic investors have been many universities of different countries,
> IBM,
> MCI, public services and agencies from scores of countries. ARPANet
> was
> certainly be part of it, as Cyclades, Euronet and others. Technically,
> ask
> old timers who did what between Roberts and Westler in the USA, Pouzin
> in
> France ...  The web has been developped at the European Nuclear Center
>
> (CERN) by an English. Deployment has been shared and paid by many
> individuals and pioneers. This mailing list is currently sponsored
> bythe
> AFNIC, etc... etc... Show me the USG contract for the Bind system.

  Well said here Jefsey.

>
>
> The rest of your text is historical. Just five remarks.
>
> - The number of DNs is not related to the importance of the usership.
> One
> the most used TLD is ".us".

  A fact that many participants is not aware of.  As this related to
.BIZ,
and what Thomas has stated about .BIZ it seems that the notion as to
which registry has now many registrations of Domain Names in a
particular Name Space (TLD), has any relevance as to which
Registry should be in operation ns which one should not be.


>
>
> - The routing conflicts are not constested by anyone serious. What is
> surprising is that the BoD has decided not to warn officialy the DoC.
> Bearing full legal and financial resposnibility.

  Yes I have wondered about this....

>
>
> - your publishing of the nominative biz list is in contravention with
> privacy laws of many countries and as such a real argument against
> iCANN
> supporters.

  The ICANN BoD has had plenty of opportunity to adequately address
privacy issues, especially in Whois data.  Yet is is just now getting
around to doing so with the Whois survey.

>
>
> - the number of demonstrated DNs is far higher than many ccTLDs
> enjoying
> full respect from he iCANN.

  Yes, another interesting fact that it seems the ICANN BoD is
overlooking...

>
>
> - the increase you show demonstrates that ARNI is here to stay and
> that
> many people now think using it is a reasonable move, either because it
> will
> survive NeuLevel which has far higher operating costs due to the iCANN
>
> constraints and will not be able to cope with a long stale period
> after the
> first collisions hit the press. So either .biz DNs by ARNI will be the
>
> winers or NewLevel will have to compromise and to buy them. ANyway it
> is
> good business to buy from Leah. I understand many are understanding
> that
> right now..
>
> Jefsey
>
>
>
>
> On 19:51 19/06/01, Ben Edelman said:
> >I've heard discussion -- on this list, at ICANN meetings, and
> elsewhere --
> >on the subject of a possible conflict in the DNS root between the
> NeuLevel
> >.BIZ (which the ICANN Board of Directors selected in its November 16,
> 2000
> >Board Meeting; see <http://www.neulevel.com>) and an existing .BIZ
> TLD
> >operated by the Atlantic Root Network (<http://www.biztld.net>).
> >
> >I've heard much discussion about the possible and theoretical
> problems
> >raised by such conflicts, but there seemed to me significant
> empirical
> >questions here.  For example, I wondered: Just how many registrations
> are in
> >the Atlantic Root Network's .BIZ?  When were those registrations
> made?
> >
> >Accordingly, I have set out to answer these questions and others
> using data
> >freely available over the Internet.  My work in progress is posted at
>
> ><http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/people/edelman/dotbiz>.  I look forward
> to
> >feedback from others interested in these questions, and to continued
> >discussion on the subject.
> >
> >
> >
> >Ben Edelman
> >Berkman Center for Internet & Society
> >Harvard Law School
> >
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Regards,

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