Re: [ga] Funding of ICANN Board candidate travel expenses

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Dassa and all assembly members,

  I am in strong agreement with your issues of honesty, and integrity
when a proposed leader is representing himself, and most especially
purporting to possibly represent others.  Can you show first hand,
where Joop has been dishonest or lacks reasonable integrity?  And
I am not interested in hearsay, or aspersion casting.  First hand only
please!  If you cannot, than I don't see your argument as being a
strong one with respect to Joop.

Dassa wrote:

> |> -----Original Message-----
> |> From: Roberto Gaetano [mailto:ga_list@hotmail.com]
> |> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 5:29 PM
> |> To: dassa@dhs.org; ga@dnso.org
> |> Subject: RE: [ga] Funding of ICANN Board candidate travel expenses
> |>
> |>
> |> Dassa,
> |>
> |> >
> |> >As this relates directly to Joops attendance as a candidate I
> would
> |> >consider the relevance obvious.  Joop may do some good work at
> times
> |> >but the blunders, falsehoods and misrepresentations must not be
> |> >overlooked either.
> |>
> |> "As a candidate"?!?!?
>
> As a nominee for the IDN TF if you prefer.
>
> |> Anyway, there are two separate issues here, one being the funding
> by
> |> Salzburg Seminar to the individual Joop, and one the
> |> representativity of Joop as spokesperson of IDNO.
>
> No, you are simplifying and ignoring the more immediate issues.  The
> real issue is honesty and integrity.  I have no issue with the funding
> being provided but how a person represents themselves in both formal
> and informal communications is of real concern.  The GA should be
> concerned about how any nominee conducts themselves and the fact a
> person misrepresents themselves.  This issue is not about the IDNO.
>
> |> I would argue that the latter is strictly an IDNO internal matter,
> and
> |> should be debated elsewhere, IMHO. Or do we want to start
> discussing here
> |> about how representative of all their respective
> |> organizations are all the
> |> participants in this process?
>
> When false statements are made it is a matter for the GA to consider.
> We operate on a basic level of trust.  If it is shown a member
> misrepresents themselves and makes false statements it should be known
> within the GA.
>
> |> About the former, I would suggest you check the rules of the game
> at
> |> http://www.icann.salzburgseminar.org/guidelines.htm.
> |> Among other things, you will see:
> |> "You or your organization must represent a significant constituency
> within
> |> the Internet community that will contribute to ICANN's mission and
> deliberations."
> |> It nowhere sais that you have to be the officially designated
> spokesperson
> |> of the member of the organization that is in turn a member
> |> of NonCom. Hence the point of yours (and WXW) is moot.
>
> The point is about honesty, false representation and integrity.  An
> issue you have deliberatly avoided, instead attempting to denote the
> issue as being related to external organisations.
>
> |> But even if this was the case, the problem would be an internal
> matter of
> |> the constituency NCDNHC, as they could argue that funding Joop will
> leave
> |> less funds for other NonCom people. From our (GA) POV what matters
> is that
> |> one of the persons that are more active on this list got some
> funding to
> |> participate and bring some of the ideas circulated here.
>
> No, sweeping such matters under the rug doesn't make them go away.  If
> the GA wants to be known as a place a person can say, do and represent
> themselves as anything they like, then the GA will fail.  I'm happy if
> Joop gets funding, as I would for any person who wishes to attend.
> What does concern me is that someone associated with and possibly
> representing the GA at some future point would make false statements
> and misrepresent themselves to other related organisations.
>
> I care about who may represent me.  I do not like dishonesty in any
> form.
>
> Darryl (Dassa) Lynch.
>
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