Re: [ga] Summary of Verisign meeting in Washington on WHOIS servi ces

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Miriam and all assembly members,

  I was not looking or asking for a Web Forum Miriam.  I was asking for
a URL where what you provided previously could be viewed and even
just an E-Mail address that any stakeholder might provide input to
that will be read, and taken into account.

Sapiro, Miriam wrote:

> Jeff -
>
> Thanks for your input.  We are in the process of setting up the web forum.
> Once that's done we will send the URL to the list.
>
> Regards, Miriam
>
> Miriam Sapiro
> Director of International Policy
>
> VeriSign, Inc.
> 1666 K Street, NW, Suite 410
> Washington DC 20006
> tel:    202-973-6600
> fax:   202-466-9103
> cell:  703-282-7117
> email: msapiro@verisign.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 5:20 AM
> To: Sapiro, Miriam
> Cc: ga@dnso.org
> Subject: Re: [ga] Summary of Verisign meeting in Washington on WHOIS
> servi ces
>
> Miriam and all assembly members,
>
>   I will not try to characterize Danny's comments one way or the other.
> I think they should just stand as is.
>
>   However I am happy to see that Verisign is taking a more concerted
> interest
> in WHOIS related issues, the most important of which is privacy of
> registrants
> with their Domain Names.  What concerns me with Versigns approach that
> you very nicely outline below, is that it seems to be a attempt to divide
> the interested parties into groups that may or may not be representative
> of the interest parties or Domain Name holders/owners.  As such, this
> proposed process you outline seems to be open to divisiveness and
> manipulation that is not necessary or could be counter productive.
> I would also like to ask is there a URL where the forum you mention
> by which interested parties may submit papers or comments?
> Please advise.
>
> Sapiro, Miriam wrote:
>
> > Danny -
> >
> > I'm sure it wasn't your intention, but your note may have left some folks
> > with the wrong impression about what I said and the state of play:
> >
> > -  The first of three consultations that VeriSign plans to hold on
> > developing a universal Whois database took place on Aug 15, hosted by the
> > U.S. Chamber of Commerce.  It was focused on getting input from business
> and
> > IP folks, as well as the law enforcement community.  Efforts were made
> > several weeks ago to publicize the session, as everyone was most welcome.
> > The invitation was, for example, sent to the Registrar and Registry
> > Constituencies.  Our intention was not to exclude anyone, but to focus
> > different sessions on different audiences.
> >
> > -  We are organizing two additional consultations, as well as setting up a
> > web-based forum for public comment.  The web forum will be particularly
> > important to ensure that everyone who has views can provide them easily.
> > The second consultation will focus on getting input from civil liberty
> > groups, ngos and additional parts of the ICANN community.  The third
> > consultation will be focused on getting international input.  We will
> > publicize details as soon as they are available.  Please note that we had
> > considered whether to schedule a consultation during the ICANN meeting in
> > Montevideo and concluded, just as some members of the Names Council did at
> > their meeting, that the schedule is already too packed.
> >
> > -  I made clear we welcome input from everyone, whether they represent
> > technical, policy or other communities.  But we must not confuse this
> effort
> > -- to conduct R&D on a universal Whois -- with the myriad of Whois policy
> > issues now appropriately under discussion by the Whois Committee, the GA
> and
> > others.  That debate is now taking place, and will continue, irrespective
> of
> > the R&D effort on a universal Whois to which we have committed.  We were
> not
> > tasked with setting policy with respect to Whois, but rather conducting
> R&D
> > on a possible technical solution for a universal Whois.  When consensus
> > decisions are made on those policy issues, they should be reflected in
> > whatever Whois database is in use/development.
> >
> > - Let me emphasize again that we welcome input from everyone, by web or in
> > person.  It would be particularly helpful to our technical team if users
> > could provide input on their requirements and priorities.  And let me also
> > reinforce that VeriSign did not "side-step" the GA -- as noted above,
> other
> > key parts of the ICANN community will be the focus of future
> consultations.
> > And the web forum will be open and accessible to all whom would like to
> > express views.
> >
> > Regards, Miriam
> >
> > Miriam Sapiro
> > Director of International Policy
> > VeriSign, Inc.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DannyYounger@cs.com [mailto:DannyYounger@cs.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:19 PM
> > To: ga@dnso.org
> > Subject: [ga] Summary of Verisign meeting in Washington on WHOIS
> > services
> >
> > This first meeting by VeriSign (one of three scheduled) was designed to
> > allow
> > panelists representing Law Enforcement and Intellectual Property interests
> > to
> > address their concerns (subsequent sessions will allow for representatives
> > of
> > Privacy groups and others to express their views).  A representative for
> the
> >
> > FBI pointed out the need for accurate and timely world-wide information.
> > The
> > head of the Intellectual Property Constituency, Steve Metalitz, required
> > searchability across a broad spectrum of data fields.
> >
> > Information on this centralized WHOIS is to be found at:
> >
> http://www.icann.org/tlds/agreements/verisign/registry-agmt-appw-com-16apr01
> > .h
> >
> > tm
> >
> > Participants at this meeting noted that neither registrars nor other
> > registries were specificly invited to attend, nor were representatives of
> > the
> > DNSO nor the NC WHOIS committee.   The lack of participants from IETF and
> > other such groups was also noted.  Miriam Sapiro who headed the Verisign
> > panel replied that the meeting was sufficiently publicized.
> >
> > It was asked (my question), will VeriSign abide by a consensus decision if
> > privacy concerns outweigh the interests of the Intellectual property
> > constituency.  I did not find the response to be satisfactory.
> >
> > This centralized WHOIS database raises many policy issues, especially with
> > regard to privacy.  I would hope that the NC chooses to add this topic to
> > their agenda and that policy matters can be resolved and honored prior to
> > being presented with a "fait accompli" by VeriSign.
> >
> > I continue to be troubled by VeriSign side-stepping the DNSO, and would
> hope
> >
> > that they would choose to be more cooperative in the future.
> >
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Regards,

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Jeffrey A. Williams
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CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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