Re: [ga] Geographic and Geopolitical Names in .info

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Jefsey and all assembly members,

  I am in agreement with Jefsey.  We [INEGroup] have made it quite clear
where our policy is on this and these sorts of issues.  Domain names regardless

or what TLD name space they reside in, should be determined by a
First come First serve basis.  Neither individuals or countries governments
have a superior right to a domain name, regardless of the similarity to their
respective country names.

Jefsey Morfin wrote:

> Dear Roberto,
> ... and all the independist movements Govs usually do not like, will get
> the same Internet recognition as the country they oppose, only in
> registering the intended country name. UDRP will close in bombs and
> military actions. Will thibet.info be reserved? what about palestine.info?
> euskadi.info, breizh.info and corsica.info will certainly be registered in
> France. I suggest ICANN reserves world.info.  will sioux.info or
> apache.info be seditious?
> This seems crazy to me, I will register "nomore.info" :-)
> Jefsey
>
> On 16:10 19/09/01, Roberto Gaetano said:
> >Elisabeth Porteneuve wrote:
> >>
> >>Would you explain why you consider trademarks rights
> >>more important that countrie's and people's rights ?
> >
> >I am not under the impression that Alexander was considering TM superior
> >rights as the countries' rights.
> >As for the people's rights, I don't see them always better protected by a
> >Government rather than by another body. But that's bringing us away from
> >the scope of the comment.
> >
> >I also think that the reservation of the country name as per ISO-3166 does
> >not make sense at all, and I am very much surprised that the GAC did not
> >notice it. According to the motion voted by ICANN, fancy things will
> >happen, like for instance:
> >- the names "germany.info" and "allemagne.info" will be reserved for
> >Germany, while maybe the German Government would have probably have rather
> >chosen "Deutschland.info", but the latter is not in ISO-3166 (remember
> >that ISO-3166 is bilingual French-English, but does not contain the names
> >in their native language[s]);
> >- very useful and easy to guess strings like "holy see (vatican city
> >state).info" and "macedonia, the former yugoslav republic of.info" will be
> >reserved.
> >
> >Also, ISO-3166 does not define the names of the countries, but their
> >codes: the names are provided for reference to point to the ISO codes. In
> >fact, if you look at ISO-3166 attentively, there are some slight glitches
> >in the names (for instance, "Taiwan, Province of China" should read
> >"Taiwan Province of China", without comma).
> >The authoritative source for the names is not ISO, but the United Nations
> >Statistic Division (see: http://www.un.org/Depts/unsd/methods/). Official
> >bulletins define both the short form, used in day-to-day work, and the
> >long (official) form. Moreover, this list is translated in all official UN
> >languages, and UNSD keeps track of the names of the countries in their
> >native language[s]. First hand, complete and correct information.
> >In simple words, the matter is a little bit more complicated than what
> >some Directors have assumed.
> >
> >Anyway, my personal pick is for a specialised TLD where the Member States
> >of the UN can register one or more SLDs of their choice (to be consistent
> >with the documentation managed by UNSD), and then it is their choice
> >whether they want to use it or not, subdivide geographically, give it to
> >trademarks owners or tourist associations or their national Registry. They
> >can choose if the name will be in English, French, or the national
> >language[s], provided, as I said, that the string is compatible with the
> >UNSD documentation.
> >
> >My personal thanks to Directors (in alphabetical order) Abril y Abril,
> >Auerbach, Blokzijl, Mueller-Maguhn, Murai, Pisanty, Quaynor, who voted
> >against, arguing that some more thinking was needed before deciding.
> >
> >Best regards
> >Roberto
> >
> >
> >
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Regards,

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