[ga] Vote?

[Eric Dierker <eric@hi-tek.com>]

You know Jeff if we could cut the crapp and bull and just recognize that big business
is going to control; then maybe we could get Chuck to give some concessions.  You are
oh so right on your points here but damned if I know how to get some consensus going
on this issue.

How about another vote?

"Either any and all stakeholders, including stakeholder/usres
have a right to participate, and that they are proportionately
represented on the ICANN BoD without restriction or
you do not have a legitimate At-Large."

I say "yes"!!

Sincerely,
Eric


Jeff Williams wrote:

> Eric and all assembly members, stakeholders or interested parties,
>
> Eric Dierker wrote:
>
> > I agree with Jeff's point of view here but I wonder if we cannot reach some
> > middle ground for consensus.
>
>   I honestly don't believe there is any middle ground here Eric.
> The MoU and the White Paper are pretty clear on this.
> Either any and all stakeholders, including stakeholder/usres
> have a right to participate, and that they are proportionately
> represented on the ICANN BoD without restriction or
> you do not have a legitimate At-Large.
>
> >
> >
> > I am an absolutist when it comes to contractual and promises, but should not
> > those of us working for the little guy try to find some compromise of consensus
> > area that works?
> >
> > When does a side have no right or rite to demand a change toward a better
> > position?
> >
> > Answers anyone?
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > Jeff William's wrote:
> >
> > > Chuck and all assembly members, stakeholders or interested parties,
> > >
> > > Gomes, Chuck wrote:
> > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: DPF [mailto:david@farrar.com]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 4:56 AM
> > > > > To: Gomes, Chuck
> > > > > Cc: [ga]
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ga] DNSO Constituency Structure
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > (Text deleted)
> > > > >
> > > > > What is wrong with doing what basically happened to the other seven
> > > > > constituencies.  Approve the concept in principle and then you will
> > > > > find members and structure will come easily.  Also one could assert
> > > > > that as a constituency can change its charter at will from that
> > > > > initially approved why worry about what is there at the moment of
> > > > > application as it could change the next day?
> > > > >
> > > > Personally I would find nothing wrong with that approach; I just think that
> > > > it is extremely unlikely to happen.  The choices then are to sit around and
> > > > wait and complain that nothing happens or do something that might increase
> > > > the chances significantly.  A third alternative is to support the ALSC
> > > > recommendations for an At-Large SO that could possibly meet many of the
> > > > needs that an individuals' constituency might meet.
> > >
> > >   The problem with your third alternative is that the ALSC study did not
> > > and still does not meet the polled consensus or the stakeholders
> > > and interested parties.  Ergo Chuck, it cannot meet any of the
> > > needs of the stakeholders adequately as it leaves out the vast
> > > majority or stakeholders in their "Final Report"...
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chuck
> > > >
> > > > (Text deleted)
> > > > >
> > > > > DPF
> > > > > --
> > > > > david@farrar.com
> > > > > ICQ 29964527
> > > > >
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> > >
> > > --
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>
> Regards,
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 121k members/stakeholdes strong!)
> CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> Contact Number:  972-244-3801 or 214-244-4827
> Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208

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