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[ga] Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] WHOIS and registered DNS servers: DNS nameservers with domain names under ccTLDs unable to resolve domain names undergTLDs
Vany and all,
Yes I understand that. However isn't NCI/Versign one of the ICANN
Registries and registrars? I believe it is. As such it seems that perhaps
the follow up from the ICANN staff has been more than a little lax.
Hence in part my previous comments.
Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales wrote:
> Jeff:
>
> I don't blame ICANN staff since they reported me that they sent all the
> information we provided to NSI.
>
> I don't know what happened in NSI about our information to be updated.
>
> Best Regards
> Vany
>
> Jeff Williams wrote:
> >
> > Vany and all,
> >
> > It think it is fairly clear that the ICANN staff folks do not know how
> > to make such changes properly and certainly not in a timely manner.
> > This if course as you nicely point out leads to another problem
> > as well that is very ferboding as well and also points out how
> > inept and the ICANN staff seems to be.
> >
> > Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales wrote:
> >
> > > Marc:
> > >
> > > I told you already that we, the AdCom notified to Randy about changes
> > > and then, naturally Randy proceed to delete us from his DNS server. We
> > > though that NSI would update information veyr fast, but still doesn't
> > > answer regarding the update ICANN staff made.
> > >
> > > Forget for one minute about NCDNHC.ORG. I am talking about a general
> > > problem. Many Registrars automatically detect if the DNS you provided
> > > is valid or not. For them, if they cannot find the hostname and the IP
> > > address under their WHOIS database (which only have information of the
> > > gTLDs), they simply won't let you to put such information. Almost all
> > > Registrars has webinterfaces where you can
> > > manage your domain by means of an account, so this is not a problem.
> > >
> > > The ability to provide as DNS server which hostname is under a ccTLD to
> > > resolve a domain name under a gTLD, should be standarize and automatic
> > > and not something that offers certain Registrars as a feature.
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Vany
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Marc Schneiders wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, at 15:59 [=GMT-0500], Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > And, in the meanwhile I am writting this, now I am begining to suspect
> > > > > why our domain NCDNHC.ORG has delayed a lot in being
> > > > > setted up with the new DNS server IP: because the primary DNS server we
> > > > > provided is under a ccTLD.
> > > >
> > > > I cannot believe this. Two nameservers under .NL (see below). No problems
> > > > at all for the ORG I represent. True, the primary is under .NET. If this
> > > > would be the problem for the non working dns for ncdnhc.org, I would guess
> > > > that icann@icann.org (the responsible admin contact) could solve it.
> > > > Certainly it would _not_ explain why the dns was deleted on the
> > > > nameservers that were and are in the ORG zone before the new one is
> > > > working... Also I _know_ that any registrar can add a ccTLD nameserver for
> > > > use with com/net/org names. I would think that the mother of all
> > > > registrars, NetSol, where ncdnhc.org is registered, could do the same. If
> > > > not, I suggest transferring the domain to Tucows/OpenSRS, which does the
> > > > trick in one or two days. Really. And it also gives you management of the
> > > > dns over a webinterface.
> > > >
> > > > fuchsia:marc {529} dig vanhamel.org. ns @a.gtld-servers.net
> > > >
> > > > ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> vanhamel.org. ns @a.gtld-servers.net
> > > > ; (1 server found)
> > > > ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
> > > > ;; got answer:
> > > > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6
> > > > ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
> > > > ;; QUERY SECTION:
> > > > ;; vanhamel.org, type = NS, class = IN
> > > >
> > > > ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> > > > vanhamel.org. 2D IN NS PAN.BIJT.NET.
> > > > vanhamel.org. 2D IN NS NS2.SECONDARY.NL.
> > > > vanhamel.org. 2D IN NS NS2.GLOBALXS.NL.
> > > >
> > > > ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> > > > PAN.BIJT.NET. 2D IN A 213.196.2.97
> > > >
> > > > ;; Total query time: 114 msec
> > > > ;; FROM: fuchsia.bijt.net to SERVER: a.gtld-servers.net 192.5.6.30
> > > > ;; WHEN: Wed Nov 28 01:55:42 2001
> > > > ;; MSG SIZE sent: 30 rcvd: 129
> > >
> > > --
> > > Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales, BSEE
> > > Information Technology Specialist
> > > Sustainable Development Networking Programme/Panama
> > > Member of the ICANN's DNSO Non-Commercial Constituency
> > > Tel: (507) 317-0169
> > > http://www.sdnp.org.pa
> > > e-mail: vany@sdnp.org.pa
> > >
> > > Are you a Non-Commercial organization and have a domain name?
> > > Join the ICANN's DNSO Non-Commercial Constituency, ncdnhc.icann-ncc.org
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Discuss mailing list
> > > Discuss@icann-ncc.org
> > > http://www.icann-ncc.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 121k members/stakeholdes strong!)
> > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> > E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> > Contact Number: 972-244-3801 or 214-244-4827
> > Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
>
> --
> Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales, BSEE
> Information Technology Specialist
> Sustainable Development Networking Programme/Panama
> Member of the ICANN's DNSO Non-Commercial Constituency
> Tel: (507) 317-0169
> http://www.sdnp.org.pa
> e-mail: vany@sdnp.org.pa
>
> Are you a Non-Commercial organization and have a domain name?
> Join the ICANN's DNSO Non-Commercial Constituency, ncdnhc.icann-ncc.org
Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 121k members/stakeholdes strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number: 972-244-3801 or 214-244-4827
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
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