[ga] Re: (ngtrans) Re: reverse delegation under ip6.arpa.?

["Jim Fleming" <jfleming@anet.com>]

What are you afraid people will find out ?

Has the IETF decided to use A6 or AAAA ?

With 2002:[IPv4]:0000 used to keep people connected to the IPv4
Internet, how can the 3FFE experimental people claim to be connected ?
Can all of the current IPv4 users access the 3FFE network ?

This may help...
http://www.dot-biz.com/IPv4/Tutorial/

The Netfilter Project: Packet Mangling for Linux 2.4
http://netfilter.samba.org

Jim Fleming
http://www.IPv8.info
IPv16....One Better !!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Hain" <alh-ietf@tndh.net>
To: "Jim Fleming" <jfleming@anet.com>; <jinmei@isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 10:13 PM
Subject: RE: (ngtrans) Re: reverse delegation under ip6.arpa.?


> Jim,
>
> You have been asked to stop posting nonsense like this to the list.
> Since you clearly choose to impede rather than help progress the work of
> the group we have no choice but to blocked your ability to post. This
> initial block will last for 2 months. Hopefully you will change your
> attitude by then.
>
> Tony
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ipng@sunroof.eng.sun.com
> > [mailto:owner-ipng@sunroof.eng.sun.com]On Behalf Of Jim Fleming
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 8:11 PM
> > To: jinmei@isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp
> > Cc: ipng@sunroof.eng.sun.com; dnsop@cafax.se; lynn@icann.org;
> > Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr; orobles@nic.mx; pdeblanc@usvi.net;
> > grant.forsyth@clear.co.nz; philip.sheppard@aim.be; mcade@att.com;
> > Richard.Tindal@neulevel.com; ck@nrm.se; RCochetti@verisign.com;
> > tony.ar.holmes@bt.com; harris@cabase.org.ar; greg_ruth@yahoo.com;
> > yjpark@myepark.com; vany@sdnp.org.pa; mueller@syracuse.edu;
> > erica.roberts@bigpond.com; Paul.Kane@reacto.com; kstubbs@dninet.net;
> > aaus@mpaa.org; gcarey@carey.cl; CCHICOINE@thompsoncoburn.com
> > Subject: Re: (ngtrans) Re: reverse delegation under ip6.arpa.?
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <JINMEI Tatuya / $B?@L@C#:H (B
> > <jinmei@isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp>)>
> > To: "Randy Bush" <randy@psg.com>
> > Cc: <ipng@sunroof.eng.sun.com>; <dnsop@cafax.se>;
> > <ngtrans@sunroof.eng.sun.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 9:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: (ngtrans) Re: reverse delegation under ip6.arpa.?
> >
> >
> > > >>>>> On Mon, 03 Dec 2001 05:31:39 -0800,
> > > >>>>> Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> said:
> > >
> > > > agreed.  but the pain is minimal.  note that, initially,
> > the content of
> > > > ip6.arpa is directly that of ip6.int.  in fact, one could
> > have the same
> > > > zone file pointed to by both names.  the big pain in the
> > transition is
> > > > that of the registries, whois, etc.  and they've been
> > working on this
> > > > for some months.
> > >
> > > As for the registry side transition, I have another question.  I saw
> > > delegations for 2001:0200::/24 to APNIC.  What is the current status
> > > about 3ffe::/16?  Is there a plan to delegate ip6.arpa. sub domains
> > > for that block?
> > >
> > > JINMEI, Tatuya
> > > Communication Platform Lab.
> > > Corporate R&D Center, Toshiba Corp.
> > > jinmei@isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp
> >
> > ---------------
> >
> > Others have stated that 3FFE users are on some sort of
> > "experimental network".
> > They are not connected to the real Internet, which has its
> > foundation in IPv4.
> > With the new AAAA records in the DNS, there is no room for the 3FFE,
> > because of the 2002:[IPv4]:0000 values. Apparently, the 3FFE
> > users use A6
> > DNS records, which are not recommended because of a variety
> > of reasons.
> > The IETF recently came to this conclusion. It is unclear why
> > it took so long.
> > Maybe stability and security are now more serious concerns ?
> >
> > Compare that to 2002:[IPv4]:0000 users, who are using IPv4 in
> > the extended
> > proxy mode, whereby the IPv4 header is augmented with extra
> > information to
> > route the packets to a larger address space. The 2002 users
> > can of course use
> > the IN-ADDR.[TLD] zones to record their address allocations.
> > Many companies,
> > including ICANN, are working on expanding the TLD variety.
> > This will help
> > to create the equivalent of thousands of Address Registries,
> > where there are
> > currently 3 dominant ones, and several private registries
> > operated by the companies
> > that got in early on the IPv4 address allocations.
> >
> > It all boils down to fairness.
> > Which list do you think is more fair ?
> > The "toy" IPv4 Internet Early Experimentation Allocations ?
> > http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
> > or
> > The Proof-of-Concept IPv8 Allocations ?
> > http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim Fleming
> > http://www.dot-biz.com/IPv4/Tutorial/
> > http://www.IPv8.info
> > IPv16....One Better !!
> >
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