[ga] Re: This is not working for positive results.

[Eric Dierker <eric@hi-tek.com>]

Absolutely you do,

But there is not a history of giving you a fair and appropriate consolidated

response.

What I am after is giving you a proper consensual, with dissenting opinions,

response.

Mr. Gomes, we have a great opportunity here to give your company direct
feedback
from our GA.

Let us endeavor to get our house in proper and prompt order to give you some

real time feed back directly from those that best represent your consumers.

No, my criticism is directed to my home, the GA.  We should be able to self
organize in a way so as not to lambaste you but give you helpful and proper
input on matters such as Transfers and Deletions.

Eric

"Gomes, Chuck" wrote:

> I think I have a history of responding to questions on this list and
> elsewhere.
>
> Chuck
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eric Dierker [mailto:eric@hi-tek.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:39 PM
> > To: abel@able-towers.com
> > Cc: George Kirikos; Gomes, Chuck; 'Joop Teernstra'; ga@dnso.org;
> > discuss-list@opensrs.org
> > Subject: This is not working for positive results.
> >
> >
> > Dear Mr. Gomes,
> >
> > I have gotten some feed back on a working group.
> >
> > One of the best is from Mr. Walsh;
> >
> > If we form a consensus on a dozen questions to ask would you
> > be willing
> > to use your good efforts to answer them for us?
> >
> > Based upon those answers we would put forth our position by
> > the end of January.
> >
> > Due to the short fuse this would be informal but based upon
> > your willingness here
> >
> > I think we could all move forth in good faith.
> >
> > We here in the GA would at least form a reasonable position
> > and you would have
> > the value of consumer desires that may help to a large degree
> > in your public
> > relations.
> >
> > Mr. Raders' and this post illustrate the combined desire to
> > move forward
> > productively.
> >
> > I am testing ga-icann for this purpose but am not yet confirmed.
> >
> > I again ask Mr. Wesson and Mr. Walsh to chair such a group or
> > at least facilitate
> > a
> > volunteer chair.
> >
> > The Ga membership has an historic opportunity to give the
> > impact it warrants and
> > the
> > largest industry Giant VRSN seems willing to work directly
> > with us to shape
> > policy.
> >
> > Please join with me in creating a scenario that contributes
> > greatly to the
> > development
> > of a proper working order of our mission.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Eric
> >
> > Abel Wisman wrote:
> >
> > > assembly,
> > >
> > > sorry to intrude again, but.....
> > >
> > > in the analogy, even if the property manager IS allowed,
> > this subscription is
> > > never more then one month lease, iow 1/12 of $ 6  and not
> > equal to 7 years
> > >
> > > however, while you are going to answer a few question mr
> > Gomes, perhaps the
> > > following ones can be taken to answer to:
> > >
> > > 1. I do read the proposal right, where it says the $ 40 is
> > for ONE year
> > > waitlist, and has to be renewed after that year ?
> > >
> > > 2. where does the registry obtain the right to sell these
> > domains, after they
> > > are deleted, or perhaps we have a different dictionary ?
> > mine states that
> > > deletion means:
> > >
> > > Pronunciation:  di-'lEt, dE-
> > > Function:       transitive verb
> > > Inflected Form(s):      de·let·ed; de·let·ing
> > > Etymology:      Latin deletus, past participle of delEre to
> > wipe out, destroy
> > > Date:   circa 1605
> > > : to eliminate especially by blotting out, cutting out, or erasing
> > >
> > > now as far as i know, the registry is supposed to delete
> > any name that is not
> > > paid for (renewal) or otherwise offered for deletion.
> > > from that I conclude that the sale of the domain is
> > illegal, since while it
> > > is owned prior to deletion, by a registrant, the registry
> > has no power over
> > > the domain and once it is deleted it no longer exists,
> > henceforth this
> > > question.
> > >
> > > Should the plan be based on transfer (XFER) then the direct
> > permission of the
> > > owner is needed nad needs to be paid for (assumption)
> > >
> > > Since these are basic questions on all proposals, i would
> > like to see these
> > > answered, since being a part of any illegal transaction is
> > something my
> > > council has advised against, on grounds they understand
> > better then I do, but
> > > it had to do with penal institutions, which does not sound
> > as being a
> > > comfortable hotel.
> > >
> > > Of course even if the above were answered in a way that
> > some rights could be
> > > obtained from somewhere, then i still believe that (and i
> > would like this
> > > hypothesis answered to) the additional value  placed upon
> > the domain could
> > > influence the current registrant to re-evaluate his/her
> > position in the
> > > decision of not renewing, keeping that knowledge from the
> > registrant shoudl
> > > then make way for a nice lawsuit
> > >
> > > thank you for the time to answer
> > >
> > > regards
> > >
> > > abel
> > >
> > > On Wednesday 09 January 2002 2:59 am, George Kirikos wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > --- "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com> wrote:
> > > > > George,
> > > > >
> > > > > Let me change the analogy.  Is it okay for a property
> > manager to have
> > > > > a
> > > > > waiting list?
> > > >
> > > > I've noticed that Chuck never actually ANSWERS a question
> > (I'm still
> > > > waiting patiently for the answers to prior questions), but simply
> > > > answers a question with his own question. I shall set the example,
> > > > though, by answering his question.
> > > >
> > > > Is it ok for a property manager to have a waiting list?
> > > >
> > > > The answer is: MAYBE.
> > >
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