Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] Re: [ga] Reply comments to the gTLD Comments on .org

[Eric Dierker <eric@hi-tek.com>]

Proposals Mr. Williams?

Your assessment seems a little raw, but in great Texas tradition cuts to the
meat with truth.
We all can learn from your bluntness.

How can Dr. Milton and I reach a concordance that will allow us to send a
strong signal?

We cannot simply expect TR to install a procedure as it is apparent he would
rather run
the show using man over rule of law.  So how can we voice this consensus which
is building?

As always, yet seldom apparent, I am open to suggestion.

Eric

PS. Long trip, sorry for my lack of attendance but we make great progress in
emerging SEASIAN countries in bringing our lessor priviliedged on line. Your
groups presence only helps the situation.

Jeff Williams wrote:

> Eric and all,
>
>   I think and I have little doubt that our [INEGroup]  members would
> predominantly agree with me that parts of both Eric and Milton's
> thoughts/comments below.  For instance the incongruency to which
> I believe that Eric is concerned about would be related to the
> historic disjointed actions of the ICANN BoD with respect to
> the introduction of competition as required in the White Paper
> as it relates to NSI/Verisign for .COM, .NET, and .ORG in
> particular with the divestiture of .NET and .ORG as the
> "Agreement/Deal", that the ICANN BoD reached or forced
> upon the stakeholder community in our names without our
> approval, not to mention reasonable input upon.  In such,
> giving NSI/Verisign a lock hold on .COM for some $$ and
> turn over of .ORG and .Net (to be determined later) it would
> seem obvious even to the causal observer that the ICANN BoD
> was more interested in the $5m in potential financial concession than
> in the best interests of the stakeholders.  Hence the incongruency
> to which Eric seems concerned about.
>
>   With respect to the actual introduction of competition in the
> Domain Name industry, the comments/concerns from Milton
> are well founded and grounded in the historical decision
> practice thus far from the ICANN BoD, which still does not
> reflect the requirements of the White Paper and the MoU,
> in that keep costs of registration for a Domain Name low
> the trade off of lack of competition was seeded.  That of
> course is utter folly in the mid to long term, and now
> seems a poor decision in the divestiture "Deal" that
> the ICANN BoD made, and was warned of in advance.
> The ICANN BoD has obviously ignored the implications,
> or has acted unwisely, in respect to overall historic
> competition policy that there is to draw upon.  It is also
> a now growing historical fact, with the recent WLS
> proposal from Verisign, that keeping costs low for
> a created monopoly such a Verisign is unlikely.
>
> Eric Dierker wrote:
>
> > Dear fine sir;
> >
> > Please elaborate on this seemingly incongruent statement.
> >
> > I guess I was mistaken in my understanding that we were looking for
> > divestiture at any cost.
> > Is it your contention that the goal has devolved to the lowest common
> > denominator of cost?
> > I agree with your telecom analogy, but am troubled by your fatalistic
> > conclusions (?).
> >
> > How do you suggest we move forward taking in your, Neumans' and Jeffs'
> > input.
> >
> > Your opinion is always valued here, please go out on a practical limb and
> > give some modicum of advise.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Eric
> >
> > Milton Mueller wrote:
> >
> > > <with major snippage>
> > >
> > > That being said, when the Board makes its final selection among
> > > applicants, it seems to me to be impossible for the Board to ignore
> > > questions of competition policy. The whole process of removing
> > > control of dot org from Verisign was motivated by a desire
> > > to increase the number of players in the market and to reduce
> > > Verisign's dominance of the registry marketplace. If we were
> > > concerned exclusively with who was the low-cost provider
> > > we might not need to divest .org at all.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss@icann-ncc.org
> > http://www.icann-ncc.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
> Regards,
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 121k members/stakeholdes strong!)
> CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> Contact Number:  972-244-3801 or 214-244-4827
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