Re: [ga] GA summary 2002-06

[Eric Dierker <eric@hi-tek.com>]

Here is a relevant poll.

Does anyone feel like the makeup of the management around here makes you
"afraid" to post.

Personally I feel like TR will suspend me for any disagreement with
someone he likes.

It just feels creepy like prior restraint, like old USSR or first Reich
stuff.

The mere banishment from his summaries is kinda weird.

Ah who cares, I am sure that if an issue becomes important we will rise
to the occasion as usual.

Happy Shrove and Ash wednesday, happy lunar and happy Tet and oh ya happy
Mardis Gras!!!

And thank you for all your hard work TR and AS.

Sincerely,
Eric


Thomas Roessler wrote:

> This summary covers the DNSO GA mailing list's (and related)
> discussions and news during the 6th (and the beginning of the 7th)
> week of 2002.  GA list archives are available online at
> <http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc09/maillist.html>.  Please
> feel free to forward this summary as you believe to be appropriate.
>
>                                 Votes
>
> There were no ongoing General Assembly votes during the week
> covered.
>
> The names council's vote on a possible waiver of rules of procedure
> was finished on February 6, with 10 votes in favor, 9 against, and
> one abstention.  As pointed out by Louis Touton (and noted earlier
> by Danny Younger), this means that the waiver was not formally
> accepted during this vote.  Also, as Touton points out, the Names
> Council "may not formally act through a vote conducted by e-mail
> alone."
> <http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/council/Arc09/msg00116.html>,
> <http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/council/Arc09/msg00125.html>.
>
>                                 Topics
>
> (i) WLS.  Abel Wisman presented a first draft of a response to the
> revised WLS proposal.  This draft contained various questions
> collected from various mailing lists.  Independently of that, Thomas
> Roessler prepared another (considerably shorter) list of questions,
> and, finally, George Kirikos submitted no less than twenty
> questions.  Alexander Svensson eventually created a compilation of
> all the different sets of questions, which was then submitted to
> Verisign.
> <http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc09/msg00846.html>,
> <http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc09/msg00866.html>,
> <http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc09/msg00899.html>,
> <http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc09/msg00926.html>.
>
> Danny Younger sent a pointer to the registrars' set of questions.
> <http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/registrars/Arc01/msg02018.html>
>
> (ii) Structure Task Force.  Danny Younger commented on the structure
> task force's work.  He notes that version 5 of the task force's
> draft was posted on January 17, that it had seen practically no
> comments from the DNSO.  Version 6 (which was supposed to be based
> on comments received) is still missing.  According to Danny, this is
> proof for the "continued failure" of the task force approach.  Also,
> he demands that the TF should focus on restructuring the DNSO.  As
> Danny puts it, "none of us care much about the BC's and IPC's
> opinion about the future ALM."
> <http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc09/msg00897.html>
>
> In a follow-up, Peter de Blanc points out that he disagrees (!)
> about the possible ability of the at-large to become a "possible
> financial force within ICANN."  As an example, he takes just one US
> dollar per member.
> <http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc09/msg00938.html>.
>
> Alexander Svensson replies that small membership fees are hardly
> practical, since sending such donations to the US directly would
> create banking costs which make any payment unpractical.  As
> examples, he lists GhanaExpress and NigeriaDirect, where a transfer
> of $ 1 would generate a fee of $ 12.  He concludes that collecting
> small fees directly would generate prohibitive transaction costs.
> <http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc09/msg00943.html>
>
> Mike Roberts suggests that the only option which may be implemented
> ("an imperfect, but feasible option") is "a self-organized initial
> cohort of ALSO participants who are willing to pay a membership fee
> by credit card." He quotes "a sustaining individual membership" as a
> "general type of minimum test."
> <http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc09/msg00945.html>
>
> In a follow-up message, David P. Farrar asks for a reference about
> the board indicating a minimum threshold of 5,000 members for a
> viable at-large organization (which was also mentioned by Mike).
> David estimates that the "chances of getting 5,000 people to
> initially pay $ 25 is near zero." He suggests a lower fee and a
> lower threshold.
> <http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc09/msg00950.html>
>
> (iii) Transfer Task Force.  Danny points to discussion notes from
> the task force's latest conference call.  The notes were pointed to
> the registrars list by Ross Rader.
> <http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc09/msg00898.html>,
> <http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/registrars/Arc01/msg02001.html>.
>
> (iv) Webcast of Accra meetings.  Ben Edelman pointed out that the
> Berkman Center's staff will not be present in Accra, and that ICANN
> itself should be contacted for webcast details.
> <http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc09/msg00947.html>
>
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