Re: [ga] DNSO Matching Funds Withdrawn

[Eric Dierker <eric@hi-tek.com>]

When the "pledge" was made ICANN was still a somewhat non-profit for
public
good corp.

I do not believe that any contributor can write off a matching pledge or
donation to ICANN at this point.

If I were the auditor I would disallow it.

Eric

ps. Hey Karl gotten any of the corp. books yet?

Jeff Williams wrote:

> Peter and all assembly members,
>
> Peter de Blanc wrote:
>
> > I do not agree about "worthless pledges".
>
>   Of course I am not surprised that you don't agree...
>
> >
> >
> > I was /am on the Names Council, and Budget committee, and went thru the
> > entire process. The fact is, that at least 6 months have gone by with no
> > contributions to that fund.
>
>   This is mainly because the GA was not allowed to set up it's
> own fund or collect it's own funds that may have contributed
> later or at the same time by the NC.   That was a very bad
> tactical and strategic error that seem to now be coming home
> to roost.
>
> >
> >
> > The offer was made in good faith, and a lot of time spent on the
> > admistrative machinations about how to accept and manage the fund. Was
> > that time wasted? Who knows.
>
>   Looks like it was wasted, without a doubt IMHO...
>
> > If we had not done everything necessary to
> > "prepare to accept money", we could not now be at this stage - which is
> > simply that no one is coming forward with donations to be matched.
>
>   INEGroup uses as part of our funding a matching fund method.
> Setting up to receive those funds took all of about two days.
>
> >
> >
> > I DO expect Verigign will match the donations to date, as small as they
> > may be.
>
>   Well they have just announced that they will NOT be...  Again
> so much for *Pledges*...
>
> >
> >
> > Peter de Blanc
> > .VI
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org] On Behalf Of Jeff
> > Williams
> > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 5:26 PM
> > To: DannyYounger@cs.com
> > Cc: ga@dnso.org; RCochetti@verisign.com
> > Subject: Re: [ga] DNSO Matching Funds Withdrawn
> >
> > Danny and all assembly members,
> >
> >   I was wondering when this shoe would drop.  Looks like it has. Not
> > really much of a surprise.  Next will be the $200m for the ..ORT/.NET
> > divestiture...  Just another notch if the nearly worthless
> > *Pledges* idea...
> >
> > DannyYounger@cs.com wrote:
> >
> > > Forwarded from the Council list:
> > > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/council/Arc09/msg00214.html
> > >
> > > Please note the e-mail below from Versign.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com>
> > > To: "'Philip Sheppard'" <philip.sheppard@aim.be>
> > > Cc: "Cochetti, Roger" <RCochetti@verisign.com>; "'DNSO Secretariat'"
> > > <DNSO.secretariat@dnso.org>
> > > Sent: 01 March 2002 14:02
> > >
> > > Philip,
> > >
> > > Two years ago VeriSign announced that it would match any donations
> > > made to support the work of ICANN's Domain Name Supporting
> > > Organization and Names Council for up to $100,000.  The purpose of
> > > this note is to advise you, with some regret, that the offer is hereby
> >
> > > withdrawn.
> > >
> > > We have felt for some time that one of the major issues facing the
> > > DNSO and the Names Council is a lack of resources and that increased
> > > resources, while not a solution to all of the DNSO's problems, would
> > > go a long way towards ensuring the competent functioning of the
> > > Council and the provision to it of more and better-researched
> > > information.  In particular, we thought that increased resources
> > > would:
> > > * Allow the Council to hire staff to take the lead in
> > > developing and implementing well defined processes and procedures to
> > > facilitate its consensus management role
> > > * Minimize the amount of subjectivity and increase the amount
> > > of measurable objective criteria in the consensus-building process
> > > * Provide clearer direction for working groups, committees,
> > > constituencies, etc.
> > > * Make it more readily possible for the NC to perform its role
> > > of managing the consensus-building process in a way that will create
> > > increased confidence throughout the Internet community.
> > >
> > > To encourage such donations, we offered to match any donation made by
> > > any company or individual up to a total of $100,000.  Since the offer
> > > was first made in 2000, we have repeated it and a fair amount of work
> > > was actually done by Names Council committees to design a neutral
> > > structure to administer whatever funds were received.
> > >
> > > Despite repeated appeals, no commitments for funds were received
> > > except from a couple members of the gTLD Registry Constituency.  This
> > > is all the more disappointing given the fact that quite a few
> > > companies who are several times larger than VeriSign have employees
> > > who sit on the Names Council and participate in most of its
> > > committees; and that there are now nearly 100 gTLD registrars, eight
> > > gTLD registries, well over a hundred ccTLD operators, and hundreds of
> > > ISP's and re-sellers who purchase and re-sell domain name registration
> >
> > > services.  Many of these are profitable and many are quite large, so
> > > their reason for not donating anything to the DNSO has never been
> > > clear.
> > >
> > > Possibly the reason donations were not received is not so much a
> > > result of organizations not being willing or able to make them but
> > > rather a result of the fact that the NC itself never promoted this
> > > offer.  It is our opinion that it is critical to create and implement
> > > processes and procedures to facilitate the NC's consensus management
> > > role in an objective manner.  So it seems unfortunate that the NC has
> > > never taken any meaningful action to establish objective,
> > > community-wide consensus management processes.
> > >
> > > After trying to help the DNSO through community donations for almost
> > > two years, the time has come to recognize that this approach did not
> > > work.
> > >
> > > Please forward this communication to the Names Council.
> > >
> > > Respectfully,
> > >
> > > Chuck Gomes
> > > Vice President, Policy & Compliance
> > > VeriSign Global Registry Services
> > >
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