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Re: [ALSC-Forum] RE: [ga] Substance over rhetoric - a constructive challenge
- To: Joanna Lane <jo-uk@rcn.com>
- Subject: Re: [ALSC-Forum] RE: [ga] Substance over rhetoric - a constructive challenge
- From: William X Walsh <william@cyberspaceassociation.info>
- Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 21:52:56 -0800
- CC: ga@dnso.org, Esther Dyson <edyson@edventure.com>, Thomas Roessler <roessler@does-not-exist.org>, Roberto Gaetano <ploki_xyz@hotmail.com>, <vinton.g.cerf@wcom.com>, <k@widgital.com>, <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>, <alexander@svensson.de>, <abel@able-towers.com>, <forum@atlargestudy.org>, <simons@acm.org>, <lynn@icann.org>
- In-Reply-To: <DPEOJECBMOLLLJOFDNDPEECCCDAA.jo-uk@rcn.com>
- References: <DPEOJECBMOLLLJOFDNDPEECCCDAA.jo-uk@rcn.com>
- Reply-To: William X Walsh <william@cyberspaceassociation.info>
- Sender: owner-ga-full@dnso.org
Tuesday, Tuesday, March 19, 2002, 8:25:41 PM, Joanna Lane wrote:
> From: William X Walsh
> Joanna won't deny what I said either, as I know she stands by her
> views and doesn't deny them later when it may not suit her. She made
> it clear that the she felt that those who participate in other aspects
> of ICANN should not be joining the At Large. The message was clear,
> and plainly spelled it out.
> ________________________________________
> Dear William,
> Obviously not. Please refer to
> http://www.icannatlarge.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=27.
> Since this was posted on March 2nd, before Accra, it refers to Lynn's
> proposal in different terms than I would do now.
Here is exactly what you said:
Message header:
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 15:23:35 -0500
From: Joanna Lane <jo-uk@rcn.com>
Subject: RE: [ga] Icannatlarge.com - conflict of interest
In-reply-to: <01c301c1c058$49fda820$9b8b3b44@villgs01.fl.comcast.net>
To: Ken Stubbs <kstubbs@digitel.net>
Cc: ga@dnso.org, Joop Teernstra <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>
Message-id: <DPEOJECBMOLLLJOFDNDPIEKECBAA.jo-uk@rcn.com>
> A person who is a paid advocate for a special interest group cannot work
> both sides of the fence in my personal opinion, whether or not they are a
> domain name registrant or not. While the support is certainly welcome, isn't
> it better for them to participate in the At Large debate as an advocate of
> their special interest group, transparently, perhaps even joining a
> "provider" class of membership that would have special value to the
> organization. In this way, we would have no diffulty evaluating the weight
> of contributions and give them the merit they deserve, as opposed to giving
> ammunition to those who would say Marilyn was lobbying for AT & T in a
> subversive fashion, and confusing those who are not familiar with her
> position. It seems to me this would be a workeable relationship to engender
> the trust we so badly need if all are amenable.
You opppose Marilyn, and by correlation any others who may be
represented by an existing class in the ICANN process, from being a
part of the At Large except in some lower class "support" or
"advocate" role.
Further, you continued to defend that position in follow up messages.
I stand by what I said, and if you had any integrity at all, you would
admit that what I said about your views was factually correct. You
would be one of the least suitable persons for this role because of
your bias against openness and inclusiveness, regardless of how
justified you and others may feel that bias to be.
--
Best regards,
William X Walsh <william@userfriendly.com>
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