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Re: [ga] MP3 technical failure - Another "Load"
Michael and all assembly members,
Well one couldn't get any more on target than you just did Michael.
Well done! And THAT's why this whole thing about the MP3
recorder being down story, will never be believed, and Sotiris
is right is saying it is a "Load"....
So Marilyn when you or Scott try to defend it with copious amounts
of "Bad Spin" you do ICANN no favors in rebuilding their
credibility in the collective sense and at the same time you
take your own credibility down even further...
Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law wrote:
> Once again, TFs as a workaround to the procedures spelled out in the
> rules.
>
> One reason why ICANN is dead is that it couldn't make and keep promises.
> The iniablity to make credible promises destroys trust.
>
> On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Cade,Marilyn S - LGA wrote:
>
> > Sotiris, I am not sure what your objection is to. The NC is working as a TF
> > to address the restructuring question. The GA chair and alt. Chair have been
> > added to the work initiative. {That idea was broadly supported! ] Thomas
> > was on the call/had to leave early, but this was a preliminary discussion
> > about TOR and work approaches.... The minutes will convey most of the
> > discussion...
> >
> > Sometimes technology fails. It's regrettable, but Glen was taking minutes.
> > Reminds all of us how helpful it is to have human back up. :-)
> >
> > And, like J.Scott, if anyone wants to call me, I'll pull out my personal
> > notes and walk through them with you.
> >
> > If you check the archives, you will see that I urged that the chair/alt
> > chair be included in this NC working as a TF. You can be suspicious, or
> > you can, like the rest of us, realize that technology fails from time to
> > time. Or, you can be both... :-)
> >
> > I know that none of us were aware of the failure.
> >
> > I agree that this is hard work... we need to focus on getting to
> > supportable restructuring options...the GA views and input will be critical.
> > Thomas and Alex will be organizing that...
> >
> >
> >
> > Marilyn
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sotiris Sotiropoulos [mailto:sotiris@hermesnetwork.com]
> > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 5:23 PM
> > To: J. Scott Evans
> > Cc: Jeff Williams; ga@dnso.org; DNSO Secretariat; Stuart Lynn; icann board
> > address
> > Subject: Re: [ga] MP3 tehnical failure - Another "Load"
> >
> >
> > Mr. Evans,
> >
> > The call should have been re-scheduled then. Without a
> > record of the deliberations the process is anything but
> > open and transparent. As for insinuating a conspiracy...
> > it's pretty obvious to most of us (Individuals) that there
> > is a cabal within ICANN. Of course, as the IPC rep your
> > interests are being served, so I wouldn't expect you to
> > say anything different. Frankly, you are paid to present
> > "your" viewpoints in these fora (viewpoints which are
> > actually those of your clients), so I wouldn't take your
> > word on these matters. It's not personal, just pragmatic,
> > so don't bother to feign offense for our sake.
> >
> > "J. Scott Evans" wrote:
> > >
> > > Gentlemen:
> > >
> > > I believe notes were indeed taken. Please be assured that nothing
> > nefarious
> > > took place. If either of you would like to know what took place, I would
> > > suggest you contact the NC Chair or the NC Secretariat and request a copy
> > of
> > > the minutes rather than posting public comments insinuating a conspiracy
> > for
> > > which you simply have no proof. In the alternative, you are welcome to
> > > phone me and I will do my best to relay my recollection of today's call.
> > >
> > > J. Scott Evans
> > > IPC NC Representative
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
> > > To: "Sotiris Sotiropoulos" <sotiris@hermesnetwork.com>
> > > Cc: <ga@dnso.org>; "DNSO Secretariat" <DNSO.Secretariat@dnso.org>; "Stuart
> > > Lynn" <lynn@icann.org>; "icann board address" <icann-board@icann.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 4:58 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [ga] MP3 tehnical failure - Another "Load"
> > >
> > > > Sotiris and all assembly members,
> > > >
> > > > Yes Sotiris, you summed it up rather nicely and honestly.
> > > > "What a load". Precisely! I just wonder how high that load
> > > > is going to get! I will see whet Guinness Book of World records
> > > > is on "Stacks/piles of LOAD" is! ROFLAMO!
> > > >
> > > > Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I think 'heinous' is a better characterization. I suppose
> > > > > there is no record of the conference whatsoever? Not even
> > > > > scribe notes? So, we'll just have to accept that none of
> > > > > us can be privy to the matters taken under conference
> > > > > during said session?
> > > > >
> > > > > What a load!
> > > > >
> > > > > eric wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is hilarious!
> > > > > > e
> > > > > >
> > > > > > DNSO Secretariat wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > [To: ga@dnso.org; liaison7c@dnso.org]
> > > > > > > [To: announce@dnso.org]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The DNSO Secretariat technical staff apologizes for the failure in
> > > MP3
> > > > > > > recording of the 22nd March Names Council conference.
> > > > > > > This failure was due to an electricity breakdown in the call room
> > > just
> > > > > > > followed by a phone breakdown.
> > > > > > > We will take care that this does not happen again in the future.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > DNSO Secretariat technical staff.
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > --
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > >
> > > > > Sotiris Sotiropoulos
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