Re: [ga] Bulk Whois Data Issue

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Eric and all assembly members,

  Your comments seem to only address the symptom of the problem
which is the privacy issue regarding listing in the WHOIS record
of listing personal and private information such as home address,
name and phone Number as well as perhaps private E-Mail
address, which is where the bulk E-mail/UCE/Spam symptom
comes into play...

  As to your comments on this symptom, your comment Eric does
not seem to ring true in practice.  Some automated marketing
e-mail software does not recognize whether or not a spam
mail/marketing blitz e-mail address responds or not.  Hence
your idea although sounds plausible on the surface, is many times
not true in actual practice.

Eric Dierker wrote:

> When Bulk mail, bulk email and spamming become inneffective they will cease.
> Global awareness of refusal to respond will be a very good starting point.
>
> > At 06:04 PM 4/17/2002 -0400, DannyYounger@cs.com wrote:
> >>Please note the following comment posted by Tim Ruiz to the registrars
> >>list:
> >>
> >><< I understand the reasoning behind public disclosure of registrant
> >>data but it seems to have gone too far. In this day and age of privacy
> >>concerns it's a little insane that Registrars are required to make
> >>their customer data available to the public in bulk.  One-offs through
> >>a Web interface are one thing. Requirements for bulk access, including
> >>open ports, to the data are just too much. It's an open invitation to
> >>abuse with no one really willing to enforce proper use of the data. In
> >>fairness, I'm not sure there is any way to enforce it given the
> >>international nature of what we do. I believe there should NOT be any
> >>requirement for open port, or bulk, access to this data.>>
> >>http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/registrars/Arc01/msg02333.html
> >>
> >>I share Tim's point of view, and would appeciate hearing the position
> >>of GA members on this topic (especially the views of those members that
> >>now participate on the WHOIS Committee).
> >
> >
> > Danny,
> >
> > I fantasize about not receiving SPAM, how much faster everyone's
> > Internet  Access could be without all the junk mail cluttering up our
> > bandwidth, how  much better the world would be if people just backed
> > off and let us find  them when we WANT/NEED their service, not being
> > found by them.  They don't  know what we want or what we need.  They
> > don't know if we are male or  female, single or married, promiscuous or
> > frigid, 8 years old or 50, etc.
> >
> > In response to your more specific question:
> >
> > My preference would be:
> >
> > Registrants are provided the opportunity
> > to OPT-IN for inclusion in the bulk access process
> > either at the time of registration
> > or as a modification option via Web GUI.
> >
> > OPT-OUT is really not a good philosophy.
> >
> > I would prefer there were no,
> > "requirement for open port, or bulk, access to this data" (from above);
> > however, I more prefer the WHOIS database be
> > as available as possible
> > to folks other than Bulk Marketers
> > and therefore support the convenience be provided to them,
> > especially at a price which enables the Registrars
> > to make a little more money
> >so the services I need
> > can continue to be as cost effective as possible.
> >
> > So, I neither have the best solution; but am willing to listen and
> > learn.  And I want a Great Solution to present during the next meeting
> > which I believe we are working toward.
> >
> > :)
> >
> > ~k
> >
> > Kristy McKee
> >
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