Re: [ga] FYI: dot-org

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Jon and all assembly members,

Jon Lawrence wrote:

> I agree that Nominet tries to do a good job but until they get some real-time
> interfaces and a meaningful accreditation process, I consider them to be
> a long way from best practice.
>
> I guess my point is mainly that I believe that a lot of the systemic problems
> Nominet faces are caused precisely because of its nonprofit status.

  I guess I fail to see how the status of any company could be a cause
of any problem that a company has from an operation standpoint.  I can
clearly see from your comments Jon, that you are obviously bias towards
For-Profit entities as registries exclusively.

  I can also see that some non-profits such as ICANN, can be poorly
managed or have poor leadership.  This can cause a problem in the
operation of a non-profit.  But that is not because ICANN is a non-profit.

  What we have all witnessed and observed is that for profit registries
like Verisign, Afilias, and Nuestar as poorly manage or lead
For-Profit companies can be central to the poor operations of such
for-profit entities as registries...

>
>
> rgds
> jon
>
> >-- Original Message --
> >Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 18:00:23 -0700
> >From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
> >To: "jon@jonlawrence.com" <jon@jonlawrence.com>
> >CC: ga@dnso.org
> >Subject: Re: [ga] FYI: dot-org
> >
> >
> >Jon and all assembly members,
> >
> >Jon Lawrence wrote:
> >
> >> Indeed...Nominet (.uk registry) is run as a non-profit entity.
> >>
> >> One could hardly suggest that they're running a best-practice registry.
> >
> >  Maybe not, but they are doing a pretty good job of running a good
> >registry.  I am not sure what a "Best Practice" registry is.  If it is
> >what ICANN has represented as such, I am thankful as are our members
> >that Nominet is not doing so...
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> What's so wrong with the profit motive anyway???
> >
> >  Not a dam thing!  I am all for a good healthy profit motive for a
> >For-Profit company.  Hell I run one! >;)  But if such and entity
> >is like Enron, Afilias, Nuestar, Author Anderson, Global Crossing,
> >Microsoft, ect. ,ect....  Than there is allot wrong with that type
> >of profit motive.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> >-- Original Message --
> >> >Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 10:31:49 -0700
> >> >From: William X Walsh <william@wxsoft.info>
> >> >Reply-To: ga@dnso.org
> >> >To: "James Love" <james.love@cptech.org>
> >> >CC: ga@dnso.org
> >> >Subject: Re: [ga] FYI: dot-org
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Thursday, Thursday, April 25, 2002, 9:52:37 AM, James Love wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> 1.  There is a concern among some board members that there will be
> >> >> non-profit front bids, with commerical companies funding a bidder,
> but
> >> >> basically it is for the benefit of the for profit....  I share this
> >concern
> >> >> also.   I recommend that there be a two stage bidding process, select
> >> the
> >> >> non-profit first, and then in the second stage, the non-profit selects
> >> >the
> >> >> operator.   ICANN could do whatever due diligence it feels it needs
> >to
> >> >on
> >> >> the second stage.
> >> >
> >> >> 2.  The $35 fee to bid will screen out most of the best non-profits
> >that
> >> >> might apply for this.   This is a stupid fee, because the winner will
> >> be
> >> >> able to easily pay the cost of the reassignment, and the fee is just
> >> to
> >> >> screen out applicants.   A very insulting response to the NC .org
> report,
> >> >> IMO.
> >> >
> >> >I don't believe the ICANN board is limiting the bids to non-profits
> in
> >> >any fashion.
> >> >
> >> >Nor do I think they should.  .org is not now, nor has it EVER been,
> >> >intended or restricted to non-profits, and there is no reason why it
> >> >should be run by a non-profit, unless they submit the best possible
> >> >proposal for running the registry.
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Best regards,
> >> >William X Walsh <william@wxsoft.info>
> >> >--
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> >> >CARP will kill Webcasting!
> >> >http://www.saveinternetradio.org/
> >> >
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> >
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> >Jeffrey A. Williams
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