[ga] Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] ISOC to bid on .org - The ISOC no longer a "Members" Org.

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Hans and all,

  Good questions here Hans as well as some very good information
as well regarding the ISOC.  However the ISOC as to becoming
the ICANN At-Large was thankfully killed off long ago, so lets
hope that doesn't rise again from the grave...

  WHat's really interesting in you comments Hans, is that this change
in the ISOC's bylaws, supposedly to be temporary, and also hotly
contested within the ISOC as well sheds some light on how IF the
ISOC along with it's "Buddies" over at Afilias would handle running
the .ORG registry should they get the bid.  It is almost frightening
to even consider the thought as a .ORG domain name holder myself,
I would be very very concerned...

Hans Klein wrote:

> At 11:58 PM 6/3/2002 -0400, Don Heath wrote:
>
> >At this point all that was done was to suspend election of Trustees by
> >Individual members, for 2002.  That is a case provided in the ISOC bylaws.
>
> Don,
>
> Do I understand you correctly?  The elimination of the members' voting
> rights is a temporary measure?  Without further action, will members'
> rights resume?
>
> A few other comments on this thread:
>
> Although ISOC's role in DNS policy has been associated with the "insiders",
> generally ISOC has been an admirable organization.  It has done good work
> in privacy and especially in diffusing the Internet to developing
> countries.  It has lots of good members -- some of whom are currently
> actively contesting the bylaw changes.
>
> *Who* ISOC is probably depends on those by-laws.  With the new bylaws, ISOC
> becomes a different organization.  I guess it will be more like a corporate
> association of some sort than an association of Internet professionals.
>
> The claim that members had to lose the vote because the cost too much has
> been contested on the ISOC lists.  The ISOC conference (INET) has been a
> financial problem.  In contrast, the claim that members were a problem is,
> in my opinion, not that credible.
>
> The parallels between ICANN and ISOC are no accident.  ISOC was supposed to
> be ICANN, and ISOC's members were supposed to be a kind of At Large.  The
> parallel evolution of their governance structures reflects how the two
> organizations are
> intertwined.  See:
> http://www.cpsr.org/internetdemocracy/cyber-fed/Number_10.html
>
> A governance debate is unfolding within ISOC that parallels that with ICANN.
>
> Cheers,
> Hans
>
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