RE: Thick vs.thin (was: [ga] Casting stones)

["Ross Wm. Rader" <ross@tucows.com>]

It's not the cost of the network that is the variable, but the cost to
the network - ie, the Internet as a whole. For one, there is a
tremendous opportunity cost associated with a centralized structure a la
a thick registry in terms of lost innovation, competition etc. I was
actually thinking about fleshing out the concept a little bit further in
a document of some sort - the ambitious can get a head start on me by
drilling down on some of the theories surrounding the option value of a
network, the e2e principle etc. and apply them to the current
registry-registrar construct and its various iterations...



                       -rwr




"There's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore like an
idiot."
- Steven Wright

Please review our ICANN Reform Proposal:
http://www.byte.org/heathrow
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 3:37 PM
> To: 'ross@tucows.com'; 'Stephane Bortzmeyer'; 'Rick Wesson'; 
> 'Joop Teernstra'; 'Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law'; 
> 'Gary Osbourne'; DannyYounger@cs.com; ga@dnso.org
> Subject: RE: Thick vs.thin (was: [ga] Casting stones)
> 
> 
> Ross,
> 
> Do you have any data to back up your conclusion about the 
> cost of the network?
> 
> Chuck
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ross Wm. Rader [mailto:ross@tucows.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 10:54 AM
> > To: 'Stephane Bortzmeyer'; 'Rick Wesson'; 'Joop Teernstra'; 
> 'Michael 
> > Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law'; 'Gary Osbourne'; 
> > DannyYounger@cs.com; ga@dnso.org
> > Subject: RE: Thick vs.thin (was: [ga] Casting stones)
> > 
> > 
> > While the thick registry is certainly convenient from a
> > management point
> > of view, the cost to the network likely exceeds the value of the
> > savings...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >                        -rwr
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "There's a fine line between fishing and standing on the 
> shore like an 
> > idiot."
> > - Steven Wright
> > 
> > Please review our ICANN Reform Proposal: 
> http://www.byte.org/heathrow
> >  
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org] On Behalf
> > > Of Stephane Bortzmeyer
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 10:07 AM
> > > To: Rick Wesson; Joop Teernstra; Michael Froomkin - U.Miami 
> > > School of Law; Gary Osbourne; DannyYounger@cs.com; ga@dnso.org
> > > Subject: Re: Thick vs.thin (was: [ga] Casting stones)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Aug 07, 2002 at 09:46:46AM +0200,
> > >  Thomas Roessler <roessler@does-not-exist.org> wrote
> > >  a message of 30 lines which said:
> > > 
> > > > With the thick model (when implemented from the beginning
> > of a TLD),
> > > > the registry can go jurisdiction shopping in order to be able to
> > > > implement whatever privacy policy they like.  
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure it is effective. For instance, ICANN
> > > accreditation for a registrar in .com requires the registrar 
> > > to escrow a copy ot its database to ICANN (I do not know how 
> > > many comply). Therefore, US rules apply to everybody, 
> > > whatever the registrar it chooses.
> > > 
> > > > (Ever thought about
> > > > what happens when you put a thick registry into a country with
> > > > strict privacy regulations?)
> > > 
> > > The future .eu will work that way (thick and under "strict"
> > > privacy regulations). Registrants who find these regulations 
> > > too strict ("I want to give away my personal data") can 
> > > always transmit them by themselves :-)
> > > 
> > > > With the thin model, the customer can go jurisdiction
> > shopping when
> > > > selecting the registrar.
> > > 
> > > The .eu registry will probably (people in Brussels still 
> think about
> > > it) implement a different model, where people will be able to
> > > express their privacy desires (may be with P3P 
> > > <URL:http://www.w3.org/P3P/)>. Two contenders for the 
> > > management of the Registry, CORE and us, are working on a 
> > > common proposal (do not hold your breath, there are 
> > > complicated technical and political
> > > issues) for expressing privacy requirments.
> > > 
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