Re: [ga] ICANN reimburse $75,000 to GAC for GAC Secretariat

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Marilyn and all assembly members,

  I agree that a pragmatic approach to this argument exists.  The
crux of the argument really is, in a pragmatic sense, who pays for
what, and why...

  What I find extraordinary and also a bit silly as well, is that $75k can
be refunded for secretariat functions, yet the DNSO GA cannot get a
dime, nor can it raise it's own funds without turning them over to
the ICANN budget committee!  This seems more than a bit
skewed in essence, and as such borders of financial malfeasance..

  But of course, in that ICANN has already lost its court case
with Karl, I suppose no one here would or should be surprised
at such potential financial malfeasance anyway....

Cade,Marilyn S - LGA wrote:

> Actually, Bret, I think it is easy to over react to this. it seems
> to me that the governments, like many others who contribute to ICANN
> may need time to develop instruments in order to fund. Each of us is
> probably familiar with what it would take from our government. Governments
> also have funding cycles, approval processes, etc.  So, I'm taking
> a more pragmatic approach. And, I can still see it feasible to have
> all secretariat services funded by ICANN's budget.
>
> However, I would expect that reasonable minds could disagree.
>
> :-)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bret Fausett [mailto:fausett@lextext.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:34 PM
> To: ga@dnso.org
> Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN reimburse $75,000 to GAC for GAC Secretariat
>
> Marilyn, you don't think it the slightest bit odd that a group constituted
> of dozens of representatives of world governments, who purport to speak on
> behalf of those governments, can't fund its own secretarial activities, at
> least through in-kind donations of time if not from money? I think this
> speaks volumes about the legitimacy of the GAC.
>
>      -- Bret
>
> Cade,Marilyn S - LGA wrote:
> > I must disagree, respectively, with any view that this is a bail-out. We are
> > all engaged in trying to achieve an effective next stage to ICANN. I am a firm
> > believer that the private sector should do what ICANN is doing. Governments
> > should be, and are, key advisors. The GAC is a critical resource in this
> > aspect. Support of the secretariat for the GAC makes sense.  We are all in
> > transition.
> >
> > Let's look forward to the future and the common vision which I believe most
> > share - we can be bogged down in past experiences. OR we can understand that
> > evolution means just that.
> >
> > It is hard to put one's personal experiences and to look to a broader more
> > common perspective... but that is necessary.  In the future, I believe we have
> > agreement to support of staff for SOs ... I have supported that extension to
> > Advisory Councils, but noted that I believe that AC's must advise SO's, where
> > policy is made, not just Board.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Marilyn
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Karl Auerbach [mailto:karl@CaveBear.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 7:33 PM
> > To: Elisabeth Porteneuve
> > Cc: ga@dnso.org
> > Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN reimbourse $75,000 to GAC for GAC Secretariat
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Elisabeth Porteneuve wrote:
> >
> >> ICANN reimbourse $75,000 to GAC for 4 month and half
> >> of GAC Secretariat (after Bucharest to 15 November 2002):
> >
> >> Deux poids deux mesures ?
> >
> >> While the DNSO Constituencies provide 90% of the whole ICANN...
> >
> > While I may have certain complaints and concerns about the DNSO, the
> > effectiveness of its administrative functions is not among them.  I have
> > been impressed with the ever-improving mechanisms that the DNSO has put
> > into place: e-mail archives, audio recordings of meetings, etc.
> >
> > (Had I had the opportunity to do so, I would not have voted for this
> > bail-out of the GAC.)
> >
> > --karl--
> >
> >
> >
> >
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