RE: [ga] RE: At-Large Supporting Organization

["Jonathan Cohen" <jcohen@shapirocohen.com>]

Hi Michael, It certainly is a defensible point of view.I will answer your
Questions upon my return. I apologize but I am leaving for Eastern Europe
and Turkey within hours so I havent the time to discuss this. I will be back
on the 28th and will reply
best regards
Jonathan

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Subject: Re: [ga] RE: At-Large Supporting Organization



Why is it that the multiple previous efforts are inadequate?

What is it about the authors of the earlier reports, e.g. the Bildt
committee, or their analysis or conclusions that you found insufficient or
unpersuasive or lacking in 'objectivity'?

Why isn't it fairer to say that delaying this via the current process
"undermines" those previous and unanimous efforts?

On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, Jonathan Cohen wrote:

> Danny ,
> you and i have talked about this before in 'general terms',but I would be
> pleased to clarify "my" thinking on the subject.It would be just that "my
> thinking" not that of the Board or any other Member.However, I think it
> appropriate to allow the ERC to finish its work and the ALAG to be looked
at
> 'objectively' by those who have undertaken the task.To open up this
dialogue
> now undermines that effort. If ultimately it recommends an ALSO,or,if
after
> some experience or debate that is considered a wise decision...I have
every
> confidence it will be made. Other Constituencies that are 'arguably'
better
> represented in ICANN (Some people feel the current "At Large" in ICANN
> consists of a relatively small number of individuals a large % of whom are
> American and that is not necessarily a"constituency' from which one can
draw
> much policy comfort on a "global" scale)and which feel they should have an
> SO.  Lets chat in the Fall
> best regards
> Jonathan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vinton g. cerf [mailto:vinton.g.cerf@wcom.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 9:48 AM
> To: DannyYounger@cs.com; ga@dnso.org
> Cc: vcerf@mci.net; apisan@servidor.unam.mx; Amadeu@nominalia.com;
> karl@cavebear.com; k13@nikhef.nl; ivanmc@akwan.com.br; lyman@acm.org;
> jcohen@shapirocohen.com; f.fitzsimmons@att.net; mkatoh@mkatoh.net;
> hans@icann.org; shkyong@kgsm.kaist.ac.kr; lynn@icann.org; andy@ccc.de;
> junsec@wide.ad.jp; quaynor@ghana.com; helmut.schink@icn.siemens.de;
> linda@icann.org; NVictory@ntia.doc.gov
> Subject: Re: At-Large Supporting Organization
>
>
> Danny,
>
> The reform committee continues to refine its proposals - I think the
general
> perspective is to see how the advisory committee organizes itself before
> making deeper commitments.
>
> vint
>
> At 11:58 PM 8/15/2002 -0400, DannyYounger@cs.com wrote:
> >Hello Vint,
> >
> >Thank you for the prompt response.  I am sure that you understand that an
> >Advisory Committee, while providing opportunities for participation, is
not
> >the equivalent of a Supporting Organization in that it cannot elect
> >representatives to the Board.  Is there a particular reason why the Board
> is
> >not amenable to such representation for the At-large community?  The ALSC
> >proposal for such an SO did have a broad base of community support -- the
> >only issue appeared to be the number of directors that it would elect...
> >
> >I can understand your decision to back away from global elections, but I
> find
> >it harder to understand why you would shy away from a representative
> >construct (the Supporting Organization) that has already served the
> >Corporation well.  Perhaps you and your fellow Board members can clarify
> your
> >thinking on this matter.  It certainly would be appreciated.
> >
> >Best regards,
> >Danny
>
> Vint Cerf
> SVP Architecture & Technology
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>
>
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