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Re: Joe Sims (was RE: [ga] Re: [Monitor & Chair] Reminder and Final Warnings: Sims, Dierker, Field, Fleming)
Accord is reached with me.
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Jeff Field wrote:
> Even though, as mentioned in my recent posting, I personally think Joe Sims is an arrogant (fill-in-the-blank) and that ICANN's acknowledged overall failure thus far can be firmly planted at his feet (because ICANN and the Board's collective arrogant "personality" stems from Joe's heavy involvement with the formation of ICANN and ongoing policymaking and policy decisions), I also believe him to be highly intelligent.
>
> It's with that view in mind that I am somewhat at a loss for his recent obvious self-destructive behavior. With anyone of lesser intelligence, I would pass it off as, "well, that was a stupid thing to do/say". With Joe, however, I am forced to think of ulterior motives and, whether his actions stem from some intentional plan or his subconscious. In any case, I guess time will tell.
>
> In the meantime, because I want ICANN to succeed and feel so strongly that Joe Sims (and Jones Day) must have no association with ICANN before real reformation takes place (a view seemingly shared by others), all my efforts regarding ICANN will be directed towards that goal from this point forward.
>
> Anyone who shares this view is invited to contact me directly (contact info is below) with ideas, suggestions, etc. on ways to accomplish this goal and, knowing that just accomplishing that goal is not enough, also welcome are suggestions, ideas, etc. regarding who/what firm might replace Joe/Jones Day.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jeff
>
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> -----
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org]On Behalf Of Joe Sims
> > Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 5:22 PM
> > To: List monitor and GA chair.
> > Cc: ga@dnso.org
> > Subject: [ga] Re: [Monitor & Chair] Reminder and Final Warnings:
> > Sims, Dierker, Field, Fleming
> >
> >
> > And you don't view Froomkin's attack on Jon Cohen as a personal
> > attack? Please, bar me from posting on this list so I am not
> > tempted to further waste my time.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Joe Sims
> > Jones Day Reavis & Pogue
> > 51 Louisiana Avenue NW
> > Washington, D.C. 20001
> > Direct Phone: 1.202.879.3863
> > Direct Fax: 1.202.626.1747
> > Mobile Phone: 1.703.629.3963
> >
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> >
> > -----"List monitor and GA chair." <roessler@does-not-exist.org>
> > wrote: -----
> >
> > To: Joe Sims <jsims@JonesDay.com>, Eric Dierker
> > <ERIC@hi-tek.com>, Jeff Field <jfield@aaaq.com>, Jim Fleming
> > <JimFleming@ameritech.net>
> > From: "List monitor and GA chair." <roessler@does-not-exist.org>
> > Date: 08/18/2002 09:00AM
> > cc: ga@dnso.org, GA List Monitoring <ga-abuse@dnso.org>
> > Subject: [Monitor & Chair] Reminder and Final Warnings: Sims,
> > Dierker, Field, Fleming
> >
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > during the last two days, the list climate has deteriorated
> > dramatically. This is a reminder to all participants that this is a
> > forum with rules:
> >
> > The following rules apply to content of messages on the GA list:
> > - The messages must be relevant to the business of the GA
> > - The messages must observe a minimum of decorum, including:
> > - Not indulging in personal attacks, insults or slander
> > - Not using offensive language
> >
> > - If the GA Chair or a list monitor asks for a limit to the number
> > of posts per person per day, this must be respected
> >
> > - The size of messages should be kept reasonable (there should be a
> > VERY good reason to send a message of more than 10 Kbytes).
> >
> > (from http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-ga-rules.html)
> >
> > We hope that we can quickly return to a GA list where all
> > participants respect this set of rules and stop all personal attacks
> > and insults *IMMEDIATELY*. Those people who keep disrespecting these
> > rules -- a minimum of decorum -- will be put under moderation, as a
> > mild form of what's suggested in the blueprint for reform.
> >
> > This warning is directed in particular at the following people:
> >
> > -- JOE SIMS for personal attacks ("hoping to rescue an otherwise
> > unimpressive career by finding a niche where you can be
> > perceived as the expert";"Junk like the stuff you post";
> > "the real sneers here from serious people are reserved for
> > folks like you")
> >
> > -- ERIC DIERKER for personal attacks ("self aggrandizing jackass")
> > and offensive language ("shitty advice")
> >
> > -- JEFF FIELD for offensive personal attacks ("arrogant asshole")
> >
> > -- JIM FLEMING for breaking the posting limit (Jim Fleming has
> > recently received warnings for off-topic postings; this is
> > the last warning)
> >
> > Please don't reply to this message. Thank you!
> >
> > Alexander Svensson Thomas Roessler
> > (List Monitor) (Chair)
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