Re: [ga] Re: Byfield on GA Reform / comments

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Thomas and all assembly members,

  BTW Thomas, my comments to which you referred to as "Rants about 
General computer security" were not about JUST general 
computer security.  Of course had you read the URL's I posted
you would have known that...  I can only therefore surmise
that you did not do so.  I am of course not surprised
that you did not...

Thomas,

  Sure.  However my comments were not "Rants" I must say I resent
the implication...

Thomas Roessler wrote:

> Jeff: May I suggest that you move your rants about general computer
> security topics elsewhere?  While there's certainly much to be said
> about the pros and contras of X.509 and PGP based PKIs, that's none
> of the GA's business.
>
> --
> Thomas Roessler                       http://log.does-not-exist.org/
>
> On 2002-09-09 23:45:27 -0700, Jeff Williams wrote:
> >Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 23:45:27 -0700
> >From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
> >Organization: INEGroup Spokesman
> >To: "eric@hi-tek.com" <eric@hi-tek.com>
> >Cc: "kent@songbird.com" <kent@songbird.com>, ga@dnso.org,
> >       "Harald@alvestrand.no" <Harald@Alvestrand.no>,
> >       Don Evans <DEvans@doc.gov>, cathy Handley <chandley@ntia.doc.gov>,
> >       "Nancy J. Victory" <nvictory@ntia.doc.gov>
> >Subject: Re: [ga] Re: Byfield on GA Reform / comments
> >
> >Eric, Kent and all assembly members,
> >
> >  Indeed!  This sort of response from Kent towards Karls well
> >reasoned post is par for the course, as they say from Kent.
> >His long standing utter contempt for Karl, a ICANN BOD member,
> >is something that shows where the ICANN staff really stands
> >with some BoD members that are not in agreement with them.
> >
> >  If such a staff member in my company made such a remark
> >towards a BoD member, he would be seeking employment
> >elsewhere rather quickly, regardless of his status as a staff member.
> >
> >  As a so called expert in security, Kent is well known for
> >believing the PKI is so much garbage.  I have sense found
> >his so called expertise very questionable at best as a result
> >of this attitude/opinion of his. I believe many in the security
> >software industry are in agreement with me here that have
> >read Kent's rantings on PKI in the past...
> >
> > Than again Harold Alverstand has been a PGP bigot or
> >was at one time (Documented on this very GA list BTW)
> >and he is the IAB Chair no less!  See: http://www.iab.org/members.html
> >I think and hope that both Kent and Harald will be attending
> >the Sans conference here: http://www.sans.org/KansasCity/track1.php
> >so that they can really learn something...
> >
> >  Given Kent and Haralds past statements regarding Internet or
> >cybersecurity makes me wonder and/or be very negatively
> >concerned as to how up to snuff they really are and if they
> >have been following any of the following URL's from this link:
> >http://news.ists.dartmouth.edu/todaysnews.html#internal6767
> >Unless I miss my guess, they have not...  For instance in a
> >letter/e-mail from Richard Clark, the presidents cybersecurity
> >czar I received the following comment:
> >
> >"Jeff, Thank you for keeping me abreast of your concerns and ideas
> >concerning Internet security issues concerns.  I share many of them
> >with you.  I am very concerned that ICANN is up to the task and   "
> >
> >
> >eric@hi-tek.com wrote:
> >
> >> Now this here is exactly what our staff should be writing.
> >> What an intelligent assinign pig.
> >> Oh i'm sorry, I forgot this idiot is in charge of security.
> >>
> >> What a shame!
> >> e
> >>
> >> kent@songbird.com wrote:
> >>
> >> > By all means.  Set up your own mailing list, outside the control of
> >> > ICANN -- you can hold your votes on it.  Since you claim that the GA is
> >> > powerless, and also since, according to you, the only thing that matters
> >> > is power anyway, I don't see why you remain subscribed to the GA list at
> >> > all -- seems like according to your own standards, it's just a waste of
> >> > time.  :-)
> >> >
> >> > Kent
> >>
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