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Re: [ga] Interesting WIPO ruling re: NewZealand.biz
ummmmmm how does this constitute a 'law'? A policy written down by someone? what
authority was there for the original distinction? was it decided at an
international conference and ratified by treaty and accompanying enabling
legislation by the various member states? Is it even US law?
and if it is...who gets to decide how it is enforced? I sure would not want that
job.
as for the distinction between .int and .org....I think that gets pretty blurred
very fast since both might be non-profit and the WHO calls itself...right in the
name the....
World Health ....Organization. Is it an .int or an .org?
Rodrigo Orenday Serrato wrote:
> Domain Name Registration Policies themselves set forth, generally, that the
> .INT gTLD is meant exclusively for international organizations created by
> international treatises, and that the .ORG domain name is only for
> non-profit organizations. That's your basis.
>
> To understand whether or not an organization in international (as opposed to
> transnational), you must refer to its constitutient charter.
>
> Atentamente, Regards
> Rodrigo Orenday Serratos
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Dan Steinberg [mailto:synthesis@videotron.ca]
> Enviado el: Jueves, 10 de Octubre de 2002 06:12 PM
> Para: rorenday@banxico.org.mx
> CC: 'Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law'; 'Leah Gallegos'; 'Andy
> Gardner'; ga@dnso.org
> Asunto: Re: [ga] Interesting WIPO ruling re: NewZealand.biz
>
> ummmmm I have a bit of trouble following this discussion. Can you tell me
> what
> law (either national law, treaty or regulation enacted under some sort of
> multilateral agreement) must be conformed to in order to preclude someone
> international organization from registering in .org?
>
> Come to think of it...what would define an international organization as
> such in
> the first place? The Who play all over the world. Are they an international
> organization? The Canadian Relief Fund for Chernobyl VIctims in
> Belarus(CRFCCB)
> is based in Canada. Are they an international organization?
>
> Rodrigo Orenday Serrato wrote:
>
> > Well, to begin with, simply that they were not meant to register it there;
> > they have their own specific gTLD, and in abusing gTLDs like that, they
> > preclude other persons' rights to register in .org.
> >
> > Say for example WHO.ORG; who should be entitled to that domain? The World
> > Health Organization (who should register under .INT), or the rock band (if
> > they were still playing, that is)?.
> >
> > My perspective is much more about order, respecting other people's rights
> > and conforming to the law than just about controlling them, Professor.
> >
> > Atentamente, Regards
> > Rodrigo Orenday Serratos
> >
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law
> > [mailto:froomkin@law.miami.edu]
> > Enviado el: Jueves, 10 de Octubre de 2002 04:58 PM
> > Para: Rodrigo Orenday Serrato
> > CC: 'Leah Gallegos'; 'Andy Gardner'; ga@dnso.org
> > Asunto: RE: [ga] Interesting WIPO ruling re: NewZealand.biz
> >
> > Why is it so important to make rules and control people? What's the
> > *harm* if an international organization chooses to register in .org?
> >
> > On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Rodrigo Orenday Serrato wrote:
> >
> > > Alright, then let's prevent international organizations from registering
> > in
> > > ..org, since that's what .int was meant for in the first place.
> > >
> > > Atentamente, Regards
> > > Rodrigo Orenday Serratos
> > >
> > > -----Mensaje original-----
> > > De: Leah Gallegos [mailto:jandl@jandl.com]
> > > Enviado el: Jueves, 10 de Octubre de 2002 02:20 PM
> > > Para: rorenday@banxico.org.mx; 'Andy Gardner'; ga@dnso.org
> > > Asunto: Re: [ga] Interesting WIPO ruling re: NewZealand.biz
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thursday 10 October 2002 01:15 pm, Rodrigo Orenday Serrato wrote:
> > > > I insist that the naming of States is a matter of public interest, and
> > > > therefore registrars should ban the registration of domain names
> > > comprising
> > > > the names of States, unless registration is requested by the State
> > > > concerned.
> > >
> > > Fortunately, IMO, the law does not agree. States and governments in
> > general
> > > should use .gov or the equiv. for official uses. If this were not the
> > case,
> > > there would never be songs like "New York, New York" or "Chicago" and
> > there
> > > would not have been a ship named the Queen Mary because commercial use
> of
> > a
> > > government name would be illegal. In addition, there would be hundreds
> of
> > > thousands of businesses that would never have existed if the use of
> > regions
> > > or government names were illegal. UDRP should be disallowed if the
> result
> > > is
> > > the out and out theft of legitmately held domains.
> > >
> > > Leah
> > >
> > > The US has .gov for government domains and ccTLDs should do the same.
> > > Actually, .US should be the home of governmental sites for the US, IMO,
> > with
> > > a .gov.us, but that is another discussion.
> > >
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