[ga] Re: [ecdiscuss] Re: 3:219 INFO..."Afilias is the registry for the .INFO gTLD." ??

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Eric or whomever you are and all,

Eric Tomson wrote:

> Jeff, or whomever you are, and all assembly members,
>
> That warning may have been my first post HERE (now you should have a
> look at my posts on the IETF discussion list)... However, it was
> justified by the danger personified by Jim Fleming.

  I am on the IETF discussion list.  I don't recall ever seeing anyone
with the E-Mail address of Eric.Tomson@BruTele.be posting there.
Perhaps I am mistaken?  Perhaps not...

>
>
> His tens (hundreds?) of sterile postings have blocked the IETF
> discussion list too many times.

  Show me where such a claim is consummated or proven.  I cannot
find in any of the IETF mailing lists that I am on where such
a claim is true or even remotely justified.

> His messages have been qualified "having
> no relevance to anything the IETF is doing or discussing", and induced
> the following comment among many others :
>
> "Neither your attempts to stimulate conspiracy theories about ICANN
> operation nor your promotion of the so-called "IPv8" scheme have
> relevance to the IETF."

  At one time there was a IETF informational RFC on IPv8.  It
was removed some time ago now without notification, which in
itself is a bit odd even for the IETF.  Hence such comments are
more of a personal attack nature than borne of factual information.

>
>
> Maybe you are unaware of this danger, on this ECDiscuss discussion list,
> but then please respect the experience of others. Unless you think the
> IETF discussion list and the IETF chair are neither reliable nor
> trustworthy...

  I know of Harald's musings from the DNSO GA of a couple of
years ago.  See DNSO GA archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html
regarding his well known practice of censorship.

>
>
> Mail from Harald Tveit Alvestrand [harald@alvestrand.no], IETF Chair, on
> Friday 13 Sep 2002, to ietf@ietf.org :
>
> "After having reviewed Jim Fleming's recent contributions to the IETF
> list, and having found no trace of modification to his behaviour after
> the warning he received on August 23, I have suspended his posting
> privilleges.

  Another form of censorship.  CENSORSHIP IN ANY OF IT'S
FORMS IS WRONG!  Any reasonable person should, and many do,
know this clearly.  This is one of the reasons Richard Clark, the
Presidents Cybersecurity czar is advocating the IETF be taken
over by the newly forming "Homeland Security" Agency.

>
> This revocation will remain in effect for 2 months, until November 12.
>               Harald Alvestrand
>                 IETF Chair"
>
> As I said in my previous mail, this was the second time in one year.
>
> So, who's the troll?

  Harald is the Troll, obviously!  Nothing new there though...

>
>
> (Now let me remind you of a basic rule on discussion lists : do NOT feed
> the troll. Just ignore him. Don't waste time reading, verifying,
> replying his mails. And do not block discussion lists with absurd,
> sterile threads.)

  I try not to feed Harald's troll like activities!  But thank you anyway!
>;)

>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com]
>
> Eric, or whomever you are, and all assembly members,
>
>   This is the first post I have seen for you EVER Eric, or whomever you
> are.
>
>   Jim Fleming is not a troll.  However you behavior in this instance
> would suggest that you are...
>
> Eric Tomson wrote:
>
> > Everybody,
> >
> > Be *very* careful : Jim Fleming is well-known as a *troll* and
> > therefore has been banned (already two times in less than one year)
> > from the IETF discussion list.
> >
> > You have been warned. Please *ignore* him. Especially all topics
> > related to the so-called IPv8, IPv16, etc.
> >
> > DO NOT FEED THE TROLL.

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