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As with the Transfer Task Force and the Whois Task Force, it is not the fact that the constituency in question does not vent her opinion in time, every memeber of any TF expects comments to the reports.
 
It is the fact that due process is to comment during the period allocated towards that goal to the TF and/or the list setup for this instead of forcing down new rules on the TF's by lobbyng to ICANN Council.
This (complaint to council) was not done without the approval of the constituency one assumes and I for one had no warning from my fellow TF memvers from those constituencies that such a thing would happen, which seems odd that they do not kow what goes on in their constituency.
 
I respect everyone of the members and accept that sometimes the constituency will not agree with what has been reached in the TF, but that is what the comment periods are for, it is called due process, like ICANN Council should have warned BOTH task-forces of the implications BEFORE the work started, since they knew policiy changes were asked from those TF's, hence they should have given their position upfront, then this would have been perhaps lead along "normal" paths.
 
regards
 
Abel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ga-full@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga-full@dnso.org] On Behalf Of Neuman, Jeff
Sent: 22 October 2002 04:37
To: 'philip.sheppard@aim.be'; 'Secretariat@dnso.org'; 'bruce.tonkin@melbourneit.com.au'
Cc: 'touton@icann.org'; 'ga@dnso.org'
Subject: [ga] Response to your posting on the NC List

Philip,
 
Forgive my posting to the GA list, but I wanted to respond to your note to the Names Council, but I do not have posting privileges to that list (although I have cc'd the Secretariat who I would hope would post this note anyway).
 
I have reproduced your note below this e-mail for the people on this list that have not seen your note.
 
One of the problems in your logic seems to stem from the fact that you are assuming that just because a person who serves on a Task Force is from a particular constituency, that whatever that person states on a call, or writes in an e-mail, or puts into a document, is the "position of the constituency."  That may be how it works in other constituencies, but that is not the way it works in the Registry Constituency. 
 
As a member of the Transfer Task Force, I have repeatedly stated over and over again that the views I am representing are my own based on my experience in working with registries and NOT the view of the Registry Constituency.  In addition, I have stated on numerous occasions that the Registry Constituency (as well as the other constituencies and the GA) as a whole needed to review the Task Force Report and that they in fact may disagree with a lot of what has been said.  They should be allowed to do so and not be chastised by others for expressing a differing viewpoint than my own. 
 
Yes, I have kept them informed about what has been going on and yes, at times I have solicited their help with certain issues -- But not with every issue and not with every statement that is made on a call or in an e-mail.  The reason the constituency selects a person to serve on the Task Force is because not every member of the constituency has the time to work on every issue while the Task Force is drafting a report.  The work needs to be spread out among the individuals serving in the constituency.  Once the report is drafted, only then do most of the members of the constituency have time to address the work of the Task Force.  If they disagree with the Task Force's recommendations, so be it.  They have every right to.
 
So, please do not argue that the constituencies are "changing their positions" because they have not.  Constituencies have an opportunity to comment after the TF Report is released, not necessarily before. 

Thanks.
 
Jeffrey J. Neuman 
 
P.S.  This posting is my own personal posting and is NOT made on behalf of the constituency.  In addition, to avoid any confusion, it is not made on behalf of NeuStar, Inc.  I hate having to put these disclaimers, but unfortunately it appears necessary.
 
 
 
 
Bruce,
in view of Louis' posting, it seems to me there is a failure of communication somewhere. I had understood that the Transfers task force had produced a set of recommendations based typically on the views and proposals of registries and registrars themselves, to solve a problem affecting their customers. Louis' note seems to say, these same groups, or different individuals from the same groups, are now contradicting their own recommendations. We need some clarification from the registry and registrars constituencies please.
 
Philip
 
 


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